re: Arden Key says Saints will bring him in for a private visit

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As for pundits, we should all know we can’t trust them in the draft process. So many lies and smokescreens this time of year. I could see him going 15 or 16.

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Sorry but these concerns aren't smokescreens. They are legit concerns.

How did he play against Miss St in 2015 and 2016? He was essentially the primary reason LSU won in 2016.

FWIW, I am just asking questions.

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Were you in a coma his soph year when he set the lsu single season mark?

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Wasn't he in the down position his SO year?


In the Up position, you would think he would score more sacks. Wouldn't you?

Head case and only plays with a hand on the ground.

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watching his highlights now from 2017 

WISC- 2 sacks, beats LT & TE
Jax St- beats RT
Miss St- beats LT for sack. Stunts inside untouched for another sack
Aub- runs by TE & thru RB for sack. Beats LT for strip sack
Missouri- runs through TE for a sack
Ole Miss- beats LT for sack
ARK- beats TE for sack
FL- runs by LT for sack
LOU- runs by RT for sack/safety. Beats RB and runs Lamar Jackson down for sack

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I really wanted Key pre-combine, as all the early mocks had him Top 15 and I thought the off the field issues could have him fall to us as a steal pick.

But when he didn’t run an elite 3-Cone Drill (it was above 7 seconds, which is still solid but not elite for an edge rusher) it took off a lot of the shine for me. I think I’d rather have Harold Landry at this point if Edge is the pick.

All of those guys except for Wake were also much heavier. 3 of them were about 13 lbs. heavier while testing, while the rest were 23+ lbs. heavier.

And Wake tested MUCH better in the other drills.

Wake
Weight: 236 lbs.
40: 4.67
20: 2.74
10: 1.68
Bench: 20
Vert: 45.5
Broad: 10'10"
20 Shuttle: 4.11
3 Cone: 7.12

Key
Weight: 238 lbs.
40: DNT
20: DNT
10: DNT
Bench: DNT
Vert: 31
Broad: 9'9"
20 Shuttle: 4.25
3 Cone: 7.16

And Key's best production came at a much heavier playing weight.

He's too light to be an effective 3 down end and his other measurables leave a lot to be desired. He also isn't going to convert into an effective 3 down OLB either, and his best fit is in a defense like the Steelers.

That along with "the issue" that took him away from football leave him as way too high of a risk, not enough of a reward for our team. Let someone else take the risk.

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Mack, Lawrence, and Ngakoue were the 3 about 13 lbs. heavier, and Mack tested MUCH better.

Lawrence and Ngakoue are exceptions to the rule. Most guys that test that poorly don't do that well in the NFL. And they were 13 lbs. heavier.

I watched every clip in Alabama game and he had 3 or 4 an pressures.
Honestly wasn't that impressed he is not a freak athlete.
I wouldn't take him at 27 think there will be better players available

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When you are an edge stand up back, you don’t have to beat the tackle out of your break.

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How did you come up with this? Using either the 3 or 2 point stance you will have to beat the OT out of his break at the snap. The three-point stance provides better leverage and explosion, because there is torque created from the nature of the stance. The two-point stance allows better formation recognition and freedom of movement to drop back in coverage.