A win is a win but can we just fair catch KOs going forward!!

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Add in that almost every return is penalized if you get any yardage

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This. There is a preemptive flag every return to punish teams that run it out. You could put 10 guys in oven mitts and there would be a hold somewhere.

There are times when it may be worth a try but not today for the Saints ESPECIALLY after the 1st Ko.

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Shaheed is a good player but it’s not like he is Tyreek Hill or anything.

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No one was pretending his is.

with Kickoff returns, there's basically only 1 positive outcome and multiple bad ones.

I don't see the point in doing anything but take the Touchback 90% of the time

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Shaheed is a good player but it’s not like he is Tyreek Hill or anything.

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And if he was Tyreek, you damn sure wouldn't risk putting him back on kickoffs unless you had to.

At this point, I agree with the OP: unless you have a dedicated returner that is all-world (think Dante Hall for the Chiefs), it's probably not worth trying to return a kick these days - you'll rarely get better field position than starting at the 25.

That said, though, the NFL won't get rid of the kickoff for several reasons:

- For teams that are behind near the end of the game, attempting an on-sides kick to preserve possession is a staple of the modern NFL game. Taking it away (without something to replace it) would never be approved by a majority of owners.

- Same situation, teams that are behind may elect to try a return for better field position, even if there's a low probability of any actual benefit.

I think the only way you ever see kickoffs eliminated is if a rule like the one that was just voted down is approved.

Just my two pennies worth, ya'll.