re: 4-7 going into bye

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4 wins gets you 8-9 drafting in the middle and Loomis sticking around (may happen regardless) 8-9 seasons at best for the foreseeable future

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Say Rizzi guides us to a 6-2 record after taking over midseason and yes a mediocre draft pick. Why is there this assumption that Rizzi will now coach like DA and we’re going to be a mediocre team moving firward? To me a lot of the reason we were mediocre was because of DA and the culture he created not JUST the talent.

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ShinerHorns

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You can’t seriously think it’s a good idea to hire Rizzi. He literally needs to win out for it to make any sense.

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Dennis Allen 2.0

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Dennis Allen was a longtime defensive coordinator and served as a head coach of another NFL team.

I understand you are minimizing him because of his lack of NFL experience but this disapproves your point that hes Dennis Allen 2.0. If anything due to his experience hes the complete opposite.

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Why is there this assumption that Rizzi will now coach like DA and we’re going to be a mediocre team moving firward?

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Because the Saints have an aging and at best mediocre roster going forward. Allen was a terrible coach to be sure but it takes a special delusion to think Rizzi will lead to team to glory
With better coaching they could have made the playoffs in 22 and or 23 but not getting past the WC round

Hey man, it's a public board remember

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With better coaching they could have made the playoffs in 22 and or 23 but not getting past the WC round

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I mean you’re saying we would be in the playoffs last 2 years with better coaching- thats a huge thing. You can’t just dismiss that.

Now making the playoffs and being a winning team isn’t enough for the fan base either?

So your argument is that Rizzi is a better choice than Allen bc Rizzi's only HC experience was at 2 shitty colleges where he went 18-23? So bc he couldn't win at the lower college level, he'll win in the NFL due to him having less experience than Allen... is that right?

I'm not minimizing his lack of NFL experience. I'm saying, like DA, Rizzi is historically a loser as HC, and would be a lazy arse pick by the Saints... JUST LIKE ALLEN.

Why should the status quo be to keep promoting assistants from within?

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Now making the playoffs and being a winning team isn’t enough for the fan base either?

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It’s better to have these things than not, but unless you have a legitimate shot to win the Super Bowl, no it’s not enough. What’s the point of toiling as the best of a shite division if you don’t have the talent to win it all? You’re Jim Mora’s Saints at that point minus the 49ers keeping you down.

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So your argument is that Rizzi is a better choice than Allen bc Rizzi's only HC experience was at 2 shitty colleges where he went 18-23? So bc he couldn't win at the lower college level, he'll win in the NFL due to him having less experience than Allen... is that right?

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Never said any of this. You just randomly assumed this.

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I'm saying, like DA, Rizzi is historically a loser as HC, and would be a lazy arse pick by the Saints... JUST LIKE ALLEN

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Technique as a NFL head coach hes 2-0. You’re just pissed that you don’t want the Saints picking the interim as coach. Im not saying they should hire Rizzi but I don’t think you should completely dismiss him either.

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Why should the status quo be to keep promoting assistants from within?

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Dennis Allen was the first time in Saints history they promoted an assistant to a head coach as a new coaching hire (not including interims). He sucked- that doesn’t mean the process is horrible or bad. I just want this team to get the best head coach and if its Rizzi im fine with that.

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It’s better to have these things than not, but unless you have a legitimate shot to win the Super Bowl, no it’s not enough. What’s the point of toiling as the best of a shite division if you don’t have the talent to win it all? You’re Jim Mora’s Saints at that point minus the 49ers keeping you down.

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I think the NFL is very different than Mora’s time. Look at the NFC other than the Lions who is an actual threat??! Get the right matchups in the playoffs- you never know. Building a team beguns with getting winning going and making the playoffs- you then build from there because at least you have a coach you can believe in- thats half the battle.