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re: 2nd pick is Tracy Porter
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree SFP we could have traded down and maybe got a later 2nd and a late 3rd if we moved back far enough and still probably got Porter. If not we still could have gotten Connor, King, or Smith. This was a big reach.
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:31 pm to Lester Earl
and a 4.29 at pro day. king isnt as fast.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:32 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
he ran a 4.37 at the combine
even so, king still ran faster
i was just figuring porter ran at his pro day b/c he did worse than 4.41 at the combine. i didn't even look it up
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:32 pm to silkyjohnson
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and a 4.29 at pro day.
nope
LINK
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CB Tracy Porter (5-10¾, 187): Ran the 40 in 4.47 and 4.41, ran position drills and stood on the rest of his numbers from the combine.
This post was edited on 4/26/08 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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King takes 4 of the 5 main athletic measurements
still, its not like we are talking 4.31 compared to a 4.55 or something
plus Porter has better on field production, which I know in your eyes doesnt really matter, but in GM's eyes usually matters most
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:32 pm to VA LSU fan
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VA LSU fan
Shut up moron
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:33 pm to VA LSU fan
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we could have traded down and maybe got a later 2nd and a late 3rd
with who? You can't just trade because you want to. Someone has to be willing to trade with you.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:33 pm to Hot Carl
quote:Keepin it real, Hot Carl.
with who? You can't just trade because you want to. Someone has to be willing to trade with you.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:34 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:
This was a big reach.
not really
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:34 pm to silkyjohnson
According to ESPN King ran a 4.309 that is pretty much the same time to me as a 4.29. Now Smith was alot slower. I do like that we saved alot of money today by not going after Lito Sheppard. I still would have liked to get Shockey but I guess we can still pursue that some more in this offseason.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:34 pm to GoldenBoy
SFP, have you actually watched King play? He was terrible and got benched for a little while. They showed a clip of James Hardy owning him just a little bit ago. King is talented, but he's a big risk, which is largely why he hasn't been drafted yet.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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nope
yep
"Tracy Porter, who doubles as a return specialist, may have inched closer to first-round consideration with a 4.29 40 at his Pro Day."
LINK
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:35 pm to Hot Carl
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with who? You can't just trade because you want to. Someone has to be willing to trade with you.
No doubt that's why we didn't get Shockey. I wanted Shockey because I thought he was the best value for that pick. I'm sure the Giants looked at the talent pool and wondered who they would pick with the 40 that would be a better value than even a disgruntled Shockey.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:36 pm to Charles Bronson
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Porter lacks good strength and needs to become more physical both versus the run and in coverage. However, he is a quick-twitched athlete capable of blanketing wide receivers in man-to-man coverage. Porter also is a playmaker in coverage, as well as the punt return game ...
quote:
King has flashed playmaking ability in coverage but his inconsistency is concerning. King has some tightness in his hips, which limits his NFL upside as a man-to-man cover corner. He also needs to become a more physical
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:37 pm to Lester Earl
Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
Height: 5-10. Weight: 188.
Projected 40 Time: 4.33.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.29.
Benchx225: 18. Vertical .
Projected Round: 1-2.
Height: 5-10. Weight: 188.
Projected 40 Time: 4.33.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.29.
Benchx225: 18. Vertical .
Projected Round: 1-2.
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:39 pm to Hot Carl
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with who? You can't just trade because you want to. Someone has to be willing to trade with you.
With Dallas needing a wide receiver we could have moved back to pick #61. They could have drafted James Hardy and since they also have a late pick in round 3 or one of their two picks in round four we could have gotten that. I am saying we could have got Porter or King much later than 40.
This post was edited on 4/26/08 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:40 pm to Lester Earl
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plus Porter has better on field production
king had 23 pass breakups and 3 picks through 3 years (31 games). 0.74 plays on the ball/game
porter had 16 picks and 24 breakups through 3.5 years (43 games). 0.93 plays on the ball/game
the difference in production isn't that much, especially considering you don't have king's likely progression as a senior. porter has the edge, but it isn't a major edge
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
so a difference of 13 career INTs doesnt widen that gap any?
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:42 pm to Charles Bronson
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SFP, have you actually watched King play?
he was VERY solid in 2006, but fell off in 2007 (Which is why i didn't know why he came out. i think there was a big...difference in opinion b/w him and the coaching staff there)
Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:42 pm to VA LSU fan
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VA LSU fan
STFU already. Everything you say is retarded and counterproductive.
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