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1st round trade up scenarios
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:45 am
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:45 am
Draft Value Chart
Knowing Loomis doesn't like to sit on his hands, take a look at the Saints current draft capital chart. The Saints #14 pick is worth 1100 points, the #45 is worth 450. Our 5th-round picks are worth between 20 and 30 points. Assuming conventional logic, next year's first is worth about 500 points, the second is worth about 250 points and the third is worth 100 points.
If he wants to be aggressive and go up and get somebody (maybe Joe Alt), here is what it would take:
#7 LAC (1500) 2024 and 2025 1st
#9 CHI (1350) 2024 1st 2025 2nd
#10 NYJ (1300) 2024 1st 2025 2nd
#11 MIN (1250) 2024 1st 2025 3rd
#12 DEN (1200) 2024 1st (2) 2024 5ths
#13 LV (1150) 2024 1st 2024 5th
I don't see him trading this year's second with the first, but I don't see any way he doesn't package the four 5th rounders we have to move up somewhere.
Knowing Loomis doesn't like to sit on his hands, take a look at the Saints current draft capital chart. The Saints #14 pick is worth 1100 points, the #45 is worth 450. Our 5th-round picks are worth between 20 and 30 points. Assuming conventional logic, next year's first is worth about 500 points, the second is worth about 250 points and the third is worth 100 points.
If he wants to be aggressive and go up and get somebody (maybe Joe Alt), here is what it would take:
#7 LAC (1500) 2024 and 2025 1st
#9 CHI (1350) 2024 1st 2025 2nd
#10 NYJ (1300) 2024 1st 2025 2nd
#11 MIN (1250) 2024 1st 2025 3rd
#12 DEN (1200) 2024 1st (2) 2024 5ths
#13 LV (1150) 2024 1st 2024 5th
I don't see him trading this year's second with the first, but I don't see any way he doesn't package the four 5th rounders we have to move up somewhere.
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:46 am to saints5021
I can't see them touching 2025 picks since this will be Dennis Allen's make it or break it year, and they'll need a full draft to attract a new coach.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:48 am to saints5021
I don't see anything but a trade up into the 3rd or 4th.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:58 am to goatmilker
quote:
I don't see anything but a trade up into the 3rd or 4th.
This is the unicorn year that Loomis trades back to add a 3rd and 4th.
Write it down.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:03 am to LSUZombie
quote:
I can't see them touching 2025 picks since this will be Dennis Allen's make it or break it year, and they'll need a full draft to attract a new coach.
I think I agree with you to a certain point. I don't see them trading their first next year, but if a guy they love drops down a few spots, Loomis will easily give up a second or third next year to go get him. Mikey has been burned waiting for guys to drop in the past and always says they will move up to get a guy they believe in. DA being the coach or not next season probably doesn't factor much into that equation.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:05 am to Snipe
quote:
Write it down.
I already wrote down a second...more than once
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:24 am to saints5021
I rather them trade down a couple spots or maybe early 20's and try to get a third or fourth round pick.
This draft is full of offensive linemen.
You can still get a left tackle ( maybe get Mims, Guyton, or the BYU kid ) with the 1st pick.
Let him compete for left tackle and then probably kick Penning to left guard or try him out at right tackle.
This teams needs cheap backups to it's aging players and who knows, you might hit on a couple of those 5th round guys.
This draft is full of offensive linemen.
You can still get a left tackle ( maybe get Mims, Guyton, or the BYU kid ) with the 1st pick.
Let him compete for left tackle and then probably kick Penning to left guard or try him out at right tackle.
This teams needs cheap backups to it's aging players and who knows, you might hit on a couple of those 5th round guys.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:30 am to saintlad74
Mickey Loomis will never trade down. He is on record saying he doesn't believe in it.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:30 am to goatmilker
they will use excess 5th round picks to get in that 3rd/4th round area
that's about it
picking in 5th round is about as certain as adding undrafted free agents
I'm sure Loomis will also deal next years 2nd and 3rd away at some point as well
that's about it
picking in 5th round is about as certain as adding undrafted free agents
I'm sure Loomis will also deal next years 2nd and 3rd away at some point as well
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:32 am to saints5021
We really need to trade down some this year. Tackle is deep and we can still get a good one later in the draft. Unless someone unexpected like Nabors or Bowers drops. There’s holes everywhere, Loomis shouldnt even think about trading up.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:32 am to saints5021
We can do fine with whatever OT is there at 14.
If anything we need to trade back and get an extra early 2nd
If anything we need to trade back and get an extra early 2nd
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:29 pm to saints5021
If Alt is still there at 9, you jump the jets to get him
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:24 pm to saints5021
NO TRADING UP , NO WAY!!
We Don't Need just 1 Player , We Need Several Players on this team.
We Don't Need just 1 Player , We Need Several Players on this team.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:55 pm to LSUDNA
quote:
NO TRADING UP , NO WAY!!
We Don't Need just 1 Player , We Need Several Players on this team.
Totally Agree,
If they Trade Up , I will be so disappointed, This team has Major Holes on Both Lines. We need all eight Picks.
No. 14 Overall.
No. 45 Overall.
No. 150 Overall.
No. 168 Overall.
No. 170 Overall.
No. 175 Overall.
No. 190 Overall.
No. 199 Overall.
Every pick is Needed.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:56 am to saints5021
We need players. We don’t have a ton of flexibility cap wise and have an aging roster. We potentially have a coaching change coming. We’re very far from being a couple of players away. If we trade a bunch of picks for Alt this front office should be lambasted.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:02 am to saints5021
The Saints would only have 3 picks this year because of past trade ups..
Loomis can figure out how to get under the cap every year but those trade ups are lost forever.. I wish they would pump the brakes on these trade ups. Sure some have worked out but lately haven't..
Loomis can figure out how to get under the cap every year but those trade ups are lost forever.. I wish they would pump the brakes on these trade ups. Sure some have worked out but lately haven't..
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:37 am to Athis
Never underestimate Loomis' ability to (*&^ things up.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:19 pm to Mattgobear
Just wait till next year.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:14 pm to goatmilker
Same.
I’d love a slight trade back in the 1st (if their board allows it) and then potentially grouping some of our 5ths together to go get someone in the 2nd or 3rd.
I’d love a slight trade back in the 1st (if their board allows it) and then potentially grouping some of our 5ths together to go get someone in the 2nd or 3rd.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:44 am to 24chevrolet48
No. 14 Overall.
No. 45 Overall.
No. 150 Overall.
No. 168 Overall.
No. 170 Overall.
No. 175 Overall.
No. 190 Overall.
No. 199 Overall.
If Loomis see's someone they like in 2nd-3rd round some or all of these picks will disappear.
No. 45 Overall.
No. 150 Overall.
No. 168 Overall.
No. 170 Overall.
No. 175 Overall.
No. 190 Overall.
No. 199 Overall.
If Loomis see's someone they like in 2nd-3rd round some or all of these picks will disappear.
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