re: Zion out tonight vs. Spurs for “personal reasons”

Mfers like you always try to make shite political. The type of dude who walks around like "HaHa I'm a masculine rural area man who thinks everything is about money and work" then get your arse whooped by an alcoholic sitting on the corner at a liquor store.

You soft as hell bro. No offense either. But your outlook on life is garbage, and you are most likely garbage as a human being and still a soft arse man who would get his arse beat in front of dudes who grew up rough.

IDGAF about your farm life. Keep that shite to yourself dawg. Some people actually care about family and friends more than work and money.

Maybe Z didn't have a kid. I love watching Z play, I don't like that he didn't play, especially if it wasn't for something like a child birth. However, I still don't give a frick about a single game in March for a team that has no chance to do anything this year.

Find a lil blonde bitch to put your energy into. I got a nice chocolate thing at home that keeps me from thinking like your soft arse. Man up

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IDGAF about your farm life. Keep that shite to yourself dawg. Some people actually care about family and friends more than work and money.

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What are you talking about? Farm life?

His job is what supports his family. Like all of them. His income is what they all rely on. When that goes away, they are all pretty much f'd. It should be in all of their self interests to make sure he is as successful as possible. That's how a family should support someone that could do things as special as him.

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Maybe Z didn't have a kid. I love watching Z play, I don't like that he didn't play, especially if it wasn't for something like a child birth. However, I still don't give a frick about a single game in March for a team that has no chance to do anything this year.

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It's not a single game. He just missed a game the week before. They don't care when he plays and will shut him down for no reason. It's a horrible practice and it can't keep going on. He has to want to play every game no matter what. Play injured, fight to be on the court.

I get the season is lost. But he can't shut it down. Also the only time he improves is when he's seriously pressed. Is it is coincidence he's playing great now, when he gets new representation and feels the pressure? That's is the kind of urgency that has to be put on him.

Even if he doesn't play another game this season, he has to be with the team, training and improving. We can't let him go away, backside and try to start it all back up in June or July. He has to live this lifestyle year round.

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Find a lil blonde bitch to put your energy into. I got a nice chocolate thing at home that keeps me from thinking like your soft arse. Man up

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You are the ones coddling the guy. Maning up would be going to work and fulfilling your obligations, supporting your family. Hopefully you are doing the that exact thing.

Boom. Roasted. Cooked me.

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I'm not downplaying him missing a game. The team is clearly tanking and we couldn't trust their word for years, who the hell knows bro.

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I don't know all the circumstances, but unless there is something extreme he should be at the game. I'd rather him play, but he should be sitting there regardless. It's automatic, an expectation. It's amazing we haven't received any updates at this point, just some kind of explanation. At this point, he just took a personal day. That's not cool.

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Imo it's just not big enough of an issue. He's played every game except the 2nd game of back to backs since the 2nd sickness game (one that I was heated asf about because of a parlay bet I made). They are trying to lose and the season is over for them.

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I think it's pretty huge. We are trying to push Zion to be a leader and still develop him physically. He can't take days off. Even if he doesn't play, he has to train, with the team (cause he can't be trusted to do that independently). Maybe it was inconvenient, but that's how habits are formed.

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Idk if I trust this franchise for next season and as a GM I wouldn't move him, but as a fan; I want to see him elsewhere just to see him with a more stable franchise.

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I want to tear it down and rebuild it. I don't see a hugh upside with this group and do not believe it can be a top contender. With that being said, we have to showcase our talent and make them seem as positive as possible.

It should be a simple plan for the rest of the year. We have the worst, worst bench in the league. Just play 11-12 guys. Nobody plays more than 24 mpg. But everybody available plays. We'll still lose pretty much every game left. We have 14 games left, 2 are B2Bs. So Zion should play 12 more games. Let him show out and build some value for the offseason. Or, if we are keeping him, build some confidence going into the offseason.

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You just made a non-sensical statement.

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For reference, the statement I made that you think is nonsensical is that the birth of one's child is more important than 1 NBA basketball game.

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I don't even know what you are trying to say.

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It's very clear and concise, not sure how else I can help you there.

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I'm not sure what you are trying to ask.

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I'm asking if this is real life that the dude arguing that 1 NBA basketball game is more important than the birth of your child is telling someone else they don't want to "die on the hill" that the birth of one's child is more important than 1 NBA basketball game.

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He missed a game for "personal reasons". We don't know what those reasons are and it's not been officially shared.

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What does that have to do with this discussion? You've made comments assuming it's the birth of his child, and that is what we're discussing, so why would you all of a sudden now make this statement? Now THAT is nonsensical.

I honestly think he’s trolling at this point. It’s hard to imagine there’s a mouth breather in Baton Rouge named Mark out there that stupid. Actually, not that hard to imagine.

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For reference, the statement I made that you think is nonsensical is that the birth of one's child is more important than 1 NBA basketball game.

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I don't think I ever said that. I said he shouldn't have to miss a game for it. Did she have birth during the game? This assumes that he had a baby, which I said two pages ago that wasn't confirmed.

There is too much debate and discussion to get condensed into a sigular statement, which I never made.

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It's very clear and concise, not sure how else I can help you there.

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You could just ask a direct question.

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asking if this is real life that the dude arguing that 1 NBA basketball game is more important than the birth of your child is telling someone else they don't want to "die on the hill" that the birth of one's child is more important than 1 NBA basketball game.

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You just took everything out of context and created your own narrative. Once again, show me that she was having birth during the game... No? You can't? Then we are arguing over hypotheticals. It can all be managed. Unless someone is dying or there is no other option, he should go to work.

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What does that have to do with this discussion? You've made comments assuming it's the birth of his child, and that is what we're discussing, so why would you all of a sudden now make this statement? Now THAT is nonsensical.

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I backtracked on page 1 and admitted that I, and everyone else, doesn't know the circumstances. Read the whole thread before jumping in on page 3 to white knight for the guy.

If you want to have a discussion strictly about missing a birth, than fine. I don't really care if a guy goes or not. But he has a contractual obligation to show up to a game. When he does he gets over 400K. You would think that would incentivize all the principles to ensure that he doesn't miss the game. So the situation. (If it happened) would be managed. Now, prove to me that they made any efforts to do that and I will fully apologize..

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The part you're missing here is "if possible"

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Why was he listed last night (Monday) as questionable, for personal reasons?

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You seem to live in this fairy tale world where there is no way possible he should have to miss a game, and it should all easily be worked around. That's not necessarily how it works in real life.

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So no discussion is ever warranted? You are just taking their word and take it for what it's worth? I'm sure those Zion fans in SA that made the trip are as understanding and were just as satisfied watching Bruce Brown take his spot.

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That doesn't even begin to get into the fact that we're tanking so it is entirely possible he maybe could have worked around it but decided together with the team that it was ok to miss time since we don't want to be winning games any way.

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This is f'n dumb. So just give up on the season? Stay home, do whatever, it doesn't matter.

This is straight up loser talk and why we don't win shite. He played great last night and we still got blown out. He doesn't impact winning a lot right now. But he has to keep playing and improving. It's adopting a lifestyle and a pattern of living. Finishing out a bad season strong individually builds character. I just don't understand people giving up now. Give him an inch, he's showing back up in June at 300lbs. It's that serious.

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You're basically speaking in absolutes and making declarations that you have no clue if they're correct or not.

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You have to be speed reading or something. This just isn't true. I have put disclaimers in just about every post. But you asked me specific questions, so I gave a specific answer. At this point, what do you want?

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Logic, common sense, rational discussion

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Great. I'm all for that.

So, you didn't answer. Why was he listed as questionable on Monday?

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Someone said he had a kid. But we have no details. When was the kid delivered? Could he have still been at the game? I'm guessing none of you care and he can just show up whenever the frick he wants, cause who gives a shite? It doesn't matter if, when he ever shows up to work or practice. Hell he should take the rest of the season off for his maybe paternity leave.

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Should he report that directly to you? Actually, I wish he would take the rest of the year off for something other than an injury. We have nothing to play for and him playing does not help the team (as we should be playing for the draft pick like Utah and Toronto seem to understand).