re: Zion 7 of 17, all from 2, with 6 TO’s

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It pisses me off to constantly come to this board and see the same idiots blaming every loss on Zion no matter what he does in the game. It is as if he can never do any right because of certain biases that many have regardless. Anyone who actually watched the game (instead of waking up and reading a boxscore to form their opinions) would not be blaming this loss on Zion in the least.

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There’s definitely a lot of blame to go around from Griff on down, but I disagree with the “anyone who actually watched the game” comment. I watch every game and in no world is my 50 mil a year player shooting 7 of 17 from point blank range with 6 TO’s and garbage defense, not a problem. It’s especially frustrating when it’s juxtaposed against Morant, a 6 foot few inches guard, blocking shots of 7 footers, grabbing rebounds and playing with a different level of intensity from our guy.

He has to be that guy if he’s at that salary for us to be really good regardless of Willie or Griff. Lineups with Zion aren’t ideal at times, but it’s damn hard to get the perfect lineup for an awful defender who only has a left handed layup in his arsenal. I’d also love to know of a way to see a stat on opponents offensive efficiency after a Zion missed shot or block. Typically, Zion ends up under the baseline, with a 5 on 4 for at least 8 seconds every time this happens or worst when his shite gets swatted back in his face.

He needs to be traded and yes we will not get the value we think we should but he’s not going to be that guy here and I don’t think you can win with who he is as a player making that kind of money.

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I’d also love to know of a way to see a stat on opponents offensive efficiency after a Zion missed shot or block. Typically, Zion ends up under the baseline, with a 5 on 4 for at least 8 seconds every time this happens or worst when his shite gets swatted back in his face.

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Would be a very interesting stat to see indeed.

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Would be a very interesting stat to see indeed.

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Definitely. Zion isn't a good enough defensive player to take plays off, and he takes too many off after a miss where he thought he was fouled.

A guy like Giannis can do that, because he's going to make a million plays on defense. A guy like Zion cannot. Same reason Luka gets brought up and ridiculed for doing, he doesn't play enough defense to excuse something like this.


Side note: Not sure if it was discussed, but with under 3 minutes to go last night, BI had a play where he missed an offensive shot, I think he fell down, so I get that he'd be the last guy up, But he didn't get across half court until like 16 seconds left on the shot clock. Just completely inexcusable shite that a coach should be lighting into any player for, star player or not.

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I do'nt have a problem kicking out to Herb. He's proven he can get to the rim when you kick it out to him.

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Good stuff...on Herb & BI/Zion. I've pretty much given up on Zion. Just a very weak Batman relatively speaking.. Sit him down, tell him if he loses some serious weight...we'll trade him wherever he wishes to go. My jury is still out on BI...

Gotta figure out the best way to allow Herb & Dyson to contribute on the offensive end. Herb has improved this year, finishing at the hoop...just doesn't get many opportunities to do so. Needs more of those. His right corner 3 "stuff" is becoming a large enough sample size to warrant a serious "look into"...especially when compared to his left corner. Herb should get 5 3s and 5 "goin' to the hoop" shots per game. Forget ANY shot beyond 7' or so...except 3s, of course. Herb still learning how to finish at the hoop but getting better at it. Needs to slow down when goin' inside. He currently has no "auto pilot"..and has to figure it out on the fly. Terribly hard thing to try & learn from scratch...AFTER entering the NBA.

Dyson just MUST gain some confidence. He's better than he thinks he is...offensively. This Pels team is goin' nowhere with their current Batman & Robin. To me...Trey, Herb and Dyson will be the key...as to where the Pels are headed. Build around them...get offensive pieces that actually "fit"...into today's NBA style of offense.