re: What big men are attainable?

Your argument blaming the organization as a whole for not developing centers is nonsensical and borderline moronic. You basically are blaming the late Tom Benson and Gayle Benson for not making the organization develop centers when you bring up guys like Asik, Noel and Ajinca. If you want to make a valid argument you blame a general manager regime otherwise you’re blaming ownership which is just dumb.

AD wasn’t a center and doesn’t refer to himself as one- bringing him up in an argument about developing centers is moronic.

1990s basketball centers were far more important. They aren’t in todays game unless you have someone elite like Jokic or Embiid. Otherwise teams have won without elite centers in the past ten years- so your emphasis and extreme priority on developing centers is completely outdated.

My point is you really don’t have a point bruh.

Sorry hes the EVP but basically the main decision maker. Its just a dumb title so they could give Trajan the gm title even though hes not really making the final decisions, its Griffin.

Lol im trying to tell him to stop bringing up those guys but I’m done trying to make him understand. I’ll end it here.

Among bigs that are potentially gettable, I'd list:

-Clint Capella: He's a bit redundant on the Hawks who may want more of a scoring big and more playing time for Okongwu. Hawks may be a team you could swing a bigger trade with as they have some interesting pieces.

-Nick Richards: The Hornets are't going anywhere soon, but a veteran big who can score might appeal to them. Richards is more defensive and Williams is their center of the future. Val might appeal as a back up.

-Isiah Stewart: A solid back up center/forward who can shoot a little. Log jam in Detroit's front court may make him available.

-Trayce Jackson Davis: it would be a flyer to get this young big who hasn't proven anything yet as a rook, but I thought he'd be perfect for the Pels coming out of the draft. Obviously, it would have to be part of a bigger deal, but the Dubs for sure want some more size and the future is now for them. Val would solve some of their problems right away and if we could get TJD back as part of a deal for Val, I'd love it. I think he will be a good pro and a versatile big in the mode of Sabonis or Sengun.

As a side note, I like the minutes that Jeremiah Robinson-Earl is giving us in the front court. He can shoot, rebound and is versatile. I think he's a keeper as a bench big.

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I believe what we really need is a reliable big off the bench.

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Thank you for bringing something of substance in this thread.

Trading Val and replacing him with someone a little better doesn’t help at all. The success would still be having a reliable backup center behind them.

If Val isn’t enough then Clint Capela isn’t enough. Miles Tuner, Sabonis, etcc isn’t enough if we have no one available when they go to the bench or get hurt.

Everyone wants to upgrade from Val but doesn’t understand that having a competent backup behind Val or to start over Val is better than replacing him for slightly better play.

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Could ya'll please take this lame arse argument about developing centers to a different thread. I DGAF what centers we did or did not develop. I'm interested in what centers could improve the current roster and might be available.

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“Can y’all please take these dumb comments about improving our roster somewhere else I’m trying to have a pointless discussion about how to stay mediocre and end up in the same position we are currently in”

“You brought up Asik and my brain can’t comprehend your overall point please go somewhere else”

Y’all are special af sometimes man

“Hey guys we haven’t developed any Center in over 20 years and it may help our current issue by doing so. We have also swapped out aging centers and used minimum assets to acquire a permanent solution and it hasn’t worked in our favor”

“Can you shut up with your bullshite, we are trying to have a serious conversation about what aging centers we can acquire for minimum assets”

Trading Val, staying under the luxury tax, and getting better, just isn’t realistic IMO. Myles Turner as an example makes more than Val, isn’t really available, and isn’t any better. Myles is an idea. The actual player gets pushed around the paint, not something this team can make up for. And Val generally shoots better than Myles for all the spacing discussions. Teams will be happy to let Myles shoot on our team.

What we can do is get a souped up version of Nance. One that won’t break down by years end. I personally don’t believe Nance will ever be the same and he’s expiring. A role playing big off the bench that can close is what I’m hoping for, close to that $10 million salary slot of Nance.

The “meltdown” is because you made me repeat myself and y’all make me feel autistic with the circles people go through in here.

You and the other guy spent a page saying “what’s your point” “how is this relevant“ “take this to another page” when it’s blatantly fricking obvious what my point is, how it correlates, and why it’s relevant.

If other people are telling you its not relevant and you don’t have a point- maybe, just maybe you should rethink what you’re saying.