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re: Watching college prospects thread

Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:51 am to
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:51 am to
I worry for you 504, you are so obsessed with Luwawu that you remind me of that guy that was so obsessed with Drummond over Davis that even when everyone else in the world realized Davis was becoming the better pro, he still went on long winded tangents claiming Drummond was better. To this day still unwilling to acknowledge Davis as a great player.

Luwawu has a long road to go to be a meaningful pro, anchoring yourself so strongly to one prospect is begging to be a punching bag going forward if he falls below the lofty expectations you have for him.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 2:53 am
Posted by patendedgmf
BR
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 3:10 am to
I am not Jonathan Givony either....
but this dude might as well be copy and pasting right from my posts! ha
Finally more people coming around :)

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Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:42 am to
he's overrated, puts up mediocre stats and takes bad shots
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:35 am to
Nah man I'm getting shitted on for liking a guy who's rated well above another guy everyone is crazy over. What you are talking about is complete reverse where you guys are gawking over a prospect that not even close to be projected where we are picking.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 8:52 am
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:53 am to
I like Luwawu a lot too but I don't see us picking a int'l guy
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:04 am to
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I like Luwawu a lot too but I don't see us picking a int'l guy


I feel the same way but if it's true of what Dell want a experience guy who can contribute now in a postion of need with him trying to trade for Porter he's the most logical pick imo. I think Dell is in too much deep shite to guy for a high ceiling international guy that our fan base isn't familiar with and won't trade back because the team won't let him mess with our pick. So I see us picking Heild on Murray. Knowing Dell MO with sunk cost he won't admit he's wrong with the Asik contract and pick Poeltl.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:32 am to
Yea I don't see us passing on heild unless maybe brown is available at our pick
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:46 pm to
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But I make shite up


You made up the "everyone here is going crazy over him" part, fool.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:50 pm to
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if it's true of what Dell want a experience guy who can contribute now in a postion of need with him trying to trade for Porter he's the most logical pick imo


Dude, he is less experienced than Hield. La Queef Liga is not better than major conference college ball. Hield has played against way more NBA and future NBA players than Luwawu to this point.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 8:50 pm
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 10:19 pm to
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Dude, he is less experienced than Hield. La Queef Liga is not better than major conference college ball. Hield has played against way more NBA and future NBA players than Luwawu to this point.



90% of college players wouldn't even make a euro roster.
Posted by sma19
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
335 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:20 pm to
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Dude, he is less experienced than Hield. La Queef Liga is not better than major conference college ball. Hield has played against way more NBA and future NBA players than Luwawu to this point.


Yes it is. He may play against one or two NBA role players on occasion and a star rarely but the rest of the guys wouldn't event make a d league roster or sniff a major euro league team. They may not have the top end talent, which also isn't entirely true (Porzingis, Nurkic, Jokic among others), but the overall talent level is way above college ball. These are grown men and would go undefeated in NCAA play. Luwawu is arguably showing more skill being able to lock down more experienced and smarter ball handlers than Hield does playing bully ball on smaller younger guys.

This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 11:24 pm
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:51 pm to
Heild having a high floor is what gets him drafted by the pels. Book it.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:25 am to
Referring to the Serbian League as "Euro League" is the problem. Acting like he regularly goes up against the best in Europe is silly. This isn't a FIBA tournament of countries. Sure, some of the guys are seasoned veterans, bUT very few of them would ever sniff an NBA opportunity. Stop over playing how good the Serbian League is. A league in Europe =/= Euro League.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:45 am to
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Heild having a high floor is what gets him drafted by the pels. Book it.


So?

We also don't know who'll be calling shots so making statements like this are futile.

I'd be completely fine with heild and most everyone would as well.

Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:59 am to
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but the overall talent level is way above college ball. These are grown men and would go undefeated in NCAA play.
It wasn't that long ago we were sending college kids to the Olympics while the rest of the world sent their pros
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:42 pm to
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It wasn't that long ago we were sending college kids to the Olympics while the rest of the world sent their pros

You mean before basketball blew up as an international sport in the 80's? Also the team he plays for are player under 22 who play in one of the most competitive pro leagues and have produced numerous numbers of good pros recently.
Posted by sma19
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
335 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:24 pm to
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It wasn't that long ago we were sending college kids to the Olympics while the rest of the world sent their pros


It was over 25 years ago when we sent all college kids... Not sure how you define wasn't that long ago, and the world basketball culture wasn't a fraction of what it is today so that's a pretty dumb argument to make. Like saying Hyundia is still a shitty made car because they used to be in the early 2000's. Things change and if you refuse to acknowledge that than you're just sticking your head in the sand.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:38 pm to
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and have produced numerous numbers of good pros recently.


such as.............

Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10115 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 2:50 pm to
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such as.............



Jokic and Marjanovic recently from Mega.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29739 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 3:03 pm to
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Jokic and Marjanovic


he said good pros, not pros you've never heard of.

Jokic might turn out to be a good player though.


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