re: this f****** C position - AD and ryno aren't a good fit

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If his shooting was opening so many lanes for guys. Maybe it's one of those things you can't really track.. 

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Are you for real?

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Are you for real?

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I don't understand that graph and what it means. What are the two different categories? Is it saying something about 0-3ft? Is it ft and fg%?

Ok, I get it now. I didn't make the connection at first.

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Basically once Anderson returned they started taking significantly more shots at the rim and they started making them at a higher rate. In other words the spacing that Anderson provides opens up the rim for attack.

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I guess they would have to. If Anderson is always on the perimeter that shifts everybody else closer to the rim.

That is a strange statistic. It's measuring layups basically. The most significant change in FG% was Jrue Holiday's. He's not a slasher. He doesn't shoot well from under the basket and he's currently at under 48% from 0-8 ft, so if he had been taking 38% of his shots under the basket since anderson's been back and been hitting 66% of them, his fg% should be much higher from 0-8 ft than it was a month ago. I'd like to see the difference it makes for shots that aren't layups.

Where is the source for that? EG's current shot chart shows a 47% mark from 0-8 ft, so they're either getting more layups at that range and shooting much worse from a couple of more feet out, or, what i'd like to chalk the statistic up to is the fact that they could be taking more shots at the rim because they're rebounding more without a big man there.

This was the pelicans shot chart as a whole before the pistons game:



This was Eric Gordon's:



If slashers were benefiting as much as you like to pretend, things should be looking better since then, since anderson has been playing 40+ minutes per game, right? They're not.

Pels now:



EG now:




Tyreke is the main slasher and his fg% has barely changed in your chart, even on layups. That chart also didn't take into account what happens when smith is on the floor, as he is also a spacer.

Here is Greg Monroe's shotchart this season:



If you look at this, you notice that the 23 year old shoots most of his shots from the paint, which any big man should imo. If you watch him play, however, you notice he shoots a lot from farther than 3 feet out. He has a lot of hooks and other skilled post shots in his repertoire. We don't have anyone like that one our team. AD doesn't have a back to the basket game, he faces up and attacks like a guard when he posts up. Their styles are very different. The high low ability is presents by just watching him play. Shot charts can only tell you so much, but what they can tell you is that monroe shoots a lot higher percentage at 0-8ft than any of our slashers and he does so consistently and can be counted on to hit shots down the stretch.

Looking at monroe this season and the pels this season, their shots would actually balance the floor pretty well. That left bank shot from a little over 8 feet out is an area that the pels have struggled with.

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Does he make the offense better than Anderson?

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I think Monroe is capable of drawing doubles, and creating easy offense for others. The shot chart does concern me a bit because he needs to draw the double far enough away from the basket to get AD easy looks. But before looking at the shot chart I thought he did that and Mr Blue assures me that's the case. He will be better defensively than Anderson because even if they have equally bad on ball defense, he's got very good rebounding numbers so should help on the defensive boards.

The real question is how much better defensively is he than Anderson, because he'll probably end up making $4-$5 million more per year. Even if he's equal to Anderson on offense, if it's only a slight upgrade on defense you just spent $5 million to stay at basically the same place. The people that want to trade Anderson seem convinced he can be replaced moneyball style with cheap 3 point specialists. I really think the Jimmy Graham vs. Lance Moore analogy I gave earlier fits Anderson vs. guys like Morrow pretty well. If you trade Anderson you need to get significantly better.

Does the team have to have a 3 point specialist? I don't think every team has them. As long as you have a few players that shoot them at a above average clip, why would you need one? The bad part is the team, outside of Anderson, doesn't really have great shooters.

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The people that want to trade Anderson seem convinced he can be replaced moneyball style with cheap 3 point specialists.

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Mind boggling that people don't understand just how much of a weapon he is.

You don't move Anderson and expect your offense to be better- maybe more traditional, but that will not be better even with Greg Monroe.

The question, as it has been for some time, is can Davis develop fast enough to make the defensive pairing respectable? So far the answer is no. But the offense with the best 5 has been absurdly good, so it hasn't mattered.

But hey, the offense just doesnt look right every possession. Trade everyone, fire everyone.

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If you don't (like me and some others), it's just going to drive you crazy and it will seem like it'll never get better.

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OR you can realize that it's better to be patient than crazy

You do not build a team with 2 $10 million 6th men. This roster as it currently stands can't be the long term goal.

Use last season for reference and you'll probably find a trend.

The Monroe trade is only going to make us better on paper and for name sake purposes. IMO Davis is a Monroe 2.0. If you make that trade with the pistons you go for drummond (if possible which I'm sure is unlikely). I don't like the idea of trading Anderson. The guy plays his arse off and despite his ability to shoot 3's he always seems to be under the basket banging for boards. We need muscle for Gordon possibly a hickson, or horford... Asik is not the answer. I wouldn't have minded gortat. But even if we can get cap space and a draft pick..... 2014 will have some FA bigs worth paying for.