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re: There are only about 13 special players in the league - Zion is one of them.

Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:58 am to
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13838 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:58 am to
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Sabonis is a better playmaker, for starters.



And was practically played off the floor for a good part of the warriors series.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:59 am to
Guys…we’re not trading BI or Zion for Scoot. It’s not happening
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5628 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:02 am to
Zion isn’t a top 13 or even top 100 player if he doesn’t actually play.

What makes you believe he will ever play even 40 games a year moving forward?

If you can a get a top 3 pick you do it. Problem is Zion’s value isn’t an enough to land the #3 pick. Even with other picks thrown in. Almost no one wants him.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
43239 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:07 am to
The whole situation is getting quite interesting.

Always thought there was great value there with him and would have been nice to move him to get back a ton in return, I do think that window is diminishing, but a franchise that wants to sell tickets and in need of a boost could gain tremendously selling tickets to the "freak show".... most pels fans were on the hook for that since he was drafted.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:07 am to
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Problem is Zion’s value isn’t an enough to land the #3 pick
If Zion is traded for 2 or 3, we will get additional compensation, I'd bet on that.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
43239 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:09 am to
Have to based on the contract correct?
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
449 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:10 am to
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If Zion is traded for 2 or 3, we will get additional compensation, I'd bet on that.


it can’t be done without additional compensation
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:12 am to
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it can’t be done without additional compensation

The Pels will get additional assets.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:15 am to
Then hopefully they do something with those assets
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
449 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:17 am to
*Cap wise* it can’t be done without additional compensation…Zion aint goin anywhere anyway
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:31 am to
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*Cap wise* it can’t be done without additional compensation…Zion aint goin anywhere anyway

Additional compensation in the form of salary match does not always equal assets.

Pels will get additional assets.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 10:32 am
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:36 am to
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SVG had him playing night in and night out. This is on the coaching staff to wake up and realize you need to push him hard, he loves it and wants it. Our coaching staff is to soft


And yet we missed the playoffs.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:38 am to
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Then hopefully they do something with those assets


Hayward
Bridges (their problem player)
2
2 firsts/pick swaps
2 seconds

For Zion and Hayes (s&t)
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:48 am to
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And yet we missed the playoffs.

Year 2, most players don't make much of a splash in year 2.

We also had 3 or 4 non NBA level rotation players in our rotation, and Bledsoe led the team in minutes played for the season.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
43239 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:54 am to
I would imagine any char dump would have hayward included because of contract
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17660 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:00 am to
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For Zion and Hayes (s&t)

Trade would be done before the draft. Can’t S&T guys until free agency, so this wouldn’t work.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
449 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:11 am to
I think we r on same page…as far as that’s concerened. Zion trade PAckage (coming and going) would be bigger than a Zion for this or that
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Trade would be done before the draft. Can’t S&T guys until free agency, so this wouldn’t work.


Charlotte can still draft Scott and trade him afterwards
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