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Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:10 pm to eyeran
Im not saying he willl block CHA from taking Noel, but Biyambo is only 20 though.
He wasn't drafted to score, he was drafted to do what Noel does; board and block.
8 rebounds and 2 blocks in 27 minutes. Could develop a Ibaka type game.
I think no one knows who they will get. Each pick will be predicated by the one before
He wasn't drafted to score, he was drafted to do what Noel does; board and block.
8 rebounds and 2 blocks in 27 minutes. Could develop a Ibaka type game.
I think no one knows who they will get. Each pick will be predicated by the one before
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:11 pm to eyeran
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Biyombo's awful. He'll be a journeyman, at best, in a few years.
He's better than Ryan Anderson, though.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:18 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:You're right.
Im not saying he willl block CHA from taking Noel, but Biyambo is only 20 though.
He wasn't drafted to score, he was drafted to do what Noel does; board and block.
8 rebounds and 2 blocks in 27 minutes. Could develop a Ibaka type game.
I think no one knows who they will get. Each pick will be predicated by the one before
Its obviously easier for me to make declarations about a player without a stake in his success or lack thereof. I also agree Noel and Biyombo are bad fits next to each. You're literally getting no offense from you're 4-5. I just don't think Biyombo will be a long term starter. I'd rather play Mullens and Noel together if I were the "Hornets"
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:19 pm to tehchampion140
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He's better than Ryan Anderson, though.
and you call yourself a pelican fan....
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:29 pm to MrBlue105
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and you call yourself a pelican fan....
*whoosh*
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Joe Gerrity ?@GerrityJoe
I would trade anyone on the Hornets not named Anthony Davis straight up for Bismack Biyombo.
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Joe Gerrity ?@GerrityJoe
Yes, I'd trade Anderson for Biyombo. I like Ryno a lot, but I like Biyombo a lot more.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:34 pm to GynoSandberg
Even though he's still young, I'm always weary of undersized bigs with poor touch around the basket. Ibaka has pretty good touch around the basket which helps tremendously in spacing. Noel has pretty good touch around the basket and the length to get easy baskets. He may not be an offensive presence but if he is capable of finishing at an efficient level, teams will consider him a threat.
Biyombo has yet to develop into a defensive presence that people were expecting. He's heading into year 3 and he has not progressed the way Charlotte was hopping for when they drafted him. I have yet to see the basketball IQ when I watch him play. If they are banking their future on Biyombo, they are in serious trouble.
Biyombo has yet to develop into a defensive presence that people were expecting. He's heading into year 3 and he has not progressed the way Charlotte was hopping for when they drafted him. I have yet to see the basketball IQ when I watch him play. If they are banking their future on Biyombo, they are in serious trouble.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:06 pm to supe12sta12z
Ibaka didn't have any semblance of an offensive game until this season (age 23).
Again, Biyambo is 20. I don't want to make this thread about him but he isn't undersized for a PF; he's 6'9" 230. He was top 10 in blocks his first two years in the league in limited minutes.
Again, I'm not saying he is great but CHA traded for him knowing he is a block/rebound guy and that he is a foreign project. And CHA obviously isn't banking their future on him considering they have Kemba and MKG as its marquee players
Again, Biyambo is 20. I don't want to make this thread about him but he isn't undersized for a PF; he's 6'9" 230. He was top 10 in blocks his first two years in the league in limited minutes.
Again, I'm not saying he is great but CHA traded for him knowing he is a block/rebound guy and that he is a foreign project. And CHA obviously isn't banking their future on him considering they have Kemba and MKG as its marquee players
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:21 pm to GynoSandberg
Ibaka has not shot less than 53.5% from the field in 4 years in the league LINK. Biyambo will never shoot 53% in his career.
I personally would want no part of Biyambo. He'd do nothing for us but keep us in mediocracy.
I personally would want no part of Biyambo. He'd do nothing for us but keep us in mediocracy.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:48 pm to Gtothemoney
Da frick? Are you even following the thread?
We are talking about CHA drafting Noel to play w Biyambo.
And Ibaka didn't "shoot" 53% until this year. He dunked and layupped 53%+ his previous years. He had no real offensive game until 2013
We are talking about CHA drafting Noel to play w Biyambo.
And Ibaka didn't "shoot" 53% until this year. He dunked and layupped 53%+ his previous years. He had no real offensive game until 2013
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:53 pm to GynoSandberg
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And Ibaka didn't "shoot" 53% until this year. He dunked and layupped 53%+ his previous years. He had no real offensive game until 2013
That's still more than what you can say about Biyombo.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:53 pm to GynoSandberg
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Da frick? Are you even following the thread?
Probably not.
I just went off on a tangent. Ibaka helped me win a fantasy championship. I get a lil sensitive about my guys.
Sorry Mr. Legend.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:58 pm to Gtothemoney
Listened to the latest bs report earlier, not sure if this has been mentioned but they seem to think Noel is gonna fall, and Washington has said they won't pick him fw that iw
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:05 pm to supe12sta12z
No one claimed Biyambo had a good offensive game. I said he could develop into an Ibaka type player. He has shown the ability to rebound and block shots. He's 20 years old and was the youngest player in the league his rookie year. The a bobcats knew what they were getting with him and are committed to him. Which brings us back to the original point of them passing on Noel
It took Ibaka 4 years to break double digit points. And he had the luxury of playing on the best offensive team in the L. He had no pressure to be anything more than a shot blocker
It took Ibaka 4 years to break double digit points. And he had the luxury of playing on the best offensive team in the L. He had no pressure to be anything more than a shot blocker
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:29 pm to GynoSandberg
You keep talking about offense. I'm talking about touch. Ibaka always had it. Biyombo doesn't. Ibaka skillset developed over the years but there was always flashes of it like his free throw shooting. Biyombo? Not so much.
It comes down to this, You don't need an offensive game to contribute but you need some touch to stay on the floor. His inability to finish at an efficient rate really makes him a liability on the court.
You keep going back to his age, but he's been in the league for two years now and has been extremely underwhelming on both ends of the floor. The only thing he's got going for him is his rebounding rate.
Ibaka had twice as many double digit games as a rookie compared to Biyombo this past year. This should really tell you something about their offensive capacity.
It comes down to this, You don't need an offensive game to contribute but you need some touch to stay on the floor. His inability to finish at an efficient rate really makes him a liability on the court.
You keep going back to his age, but he's been in the league for two years now and has been extremely underwhelming on both ends of the floor. The only thing he's got going for him is his rebounding rate.
Ibaka had twice as many double digit games as a rookie compared to Biyombo this past year. This should really tell you something about their offensive capacity.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:31 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
Yeah I heard him say Wiz wont pick Nerlens.
Never believe what you hear right now. But if true...he could stumble pretty far down. I doubt we take him.
Never believe what you hear right now. But if true...he could stumble pretty far down. I doubt we take him.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:37 pm to supe12sta12z
Ok
You win
You win
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:43 pm to GynoSandberg
That's what I was trying to say when you asked me if I even followed this thread.
Anyway, I guess I'll start my own Burke thread when I want to interject.
Anyway, I guess I'll start my own Burke thread when I want to interject.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:47 pm to GynoSandberg
Some scouts thought Bismack was in his mid 20's when he was drafted. I don't think anyone truly knows how old he is.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 8:38 am to Whodatforlife21
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Well then lets to the trade and draft Porter and MCW with the 2 picks or Burke and Shabazz. Either combination will be very good for me.
2 picks in this weak of a draft isn't what we would want. Monty has already expressed that he wants a more veteran presence on this team. Also, Burke and Bazz would mean we would probably have the worst perimeter defense in the NBA...
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