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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:22 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:22 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Favors? Really? I would not take on an extra $7 million for Favors. There have to be other veterans available for less than that.
Pairing a solid veteran with Jabari Smith Jr.
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:35 am to NOSHAU
I mean 7 million for a bottom dwelling team with almost no money spent isn’t bad.
Favors despite the narrative didn’t play poorly here. He’s not a great fit for a team wanting to run. He’s also got the defensive IQ that will make all of those guys smarter players.
If his job is to guide a #3 pick Power Forward with upside, he can probably navigate some of the mine fields.
Favors despite the narrative didn’t play poorly here. He’s not a great fit for a team wanting to run. He’s also got the defensive IQ that will make all of those guys smarter players.
If his job is to guide a #3 pick Power Forward with upside, he can probably navigate some of the mine fields.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:38 am to NOSHAU
I think Rockets probably did it to get to the cap floor, and add Favors who they can probably flip for something else.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:52 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Favors is not someone I would want mentoring a young big. I find Favors to be a bit lazy and did not seem to have a great attitude (at least when he was here).
I mean 7 million for a bottom dwelling team with almost no money spent isn’t bad.
Favors despite the narrative didn’t play poorly here. He’s not a great fit for a team wanting to run. He’s also got the defensive IQ that will make all of those guys smarter players.
If his job is to guide a #3 pick Power Forward with upside, he can probably navigate some of the mine fields.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:55 am to NOSHAU
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Favors is not someone I would want mentoring a young big. I find Favors to be a bit lazy and did not seem to have a great attitude (at least when he was here).
That’s nonsense. By all accounts he’s considered a professional. Utah brought him back for a second stint after having him for years. The Jazz are a no nonsense organization.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:55 am to Soggymoss
quote:Was Houston close to the cap floor? Does Wall's dead money not count against the cap floor? He was about $40 million alone.
I think Rockets probably did it to get to the cap floor, and add Favors who they can probably flip for something else.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:56 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:The Jazz seemed to like him, but he was lazy here. Maybe he did not like the faster pace. He looked done.
That’s nonsense. By all accounts he’s considered a professional. Utah brought him back for a second stint after having him for years. The Jazz are a no nonsense organization.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:57 am to NOSHAU
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The Jazz seemed to like him, but he was lazy here. Maybe he did not like the faster pace. He looked done.
Had some of the higher advanced metrics on the team.
He looked slow. Which is he is. That’s not lazy.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:00 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:He was slow but also looked lazy. He did not come back on offense a lot. He did not work hard for rebounds (which was his calling card in the past). Now, he also had a personal tragedy while he was here that could have attributed to his lackadaisical attitude. Regardless, I would not picture him as the mentor for someone like Smith (a physical freak).
Had some of the higher advanced metrics on the team.
He looked slow. Which is he is. That’s not lazy.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:11 pm to NOSHAU
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He was slow but also looked lazy. He did not come back on offense a lot. He did not work hard for rebounds (which was his calling card in the past). Now, he also had a personal tragedy while he was here that could have attributed to his lackadaisical attitude. Regardless, I would not picture him as the mentor for someone like Smith (a physical freak).
He was far and away the leader in rebounding rate his one season here. His advance numbers show he was one of the better players on the team that year.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:14 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
yeah i dont get the favors slander. in his role he was near elite, at least for that team
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:36 pm to NOSHAU
Wall’s money is offset by anything the Clip Show signed him for past the minimum.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:24 pm to cgrand
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his role he was near elite, at least for that team
Alvin made sure to use him wrong in every which way possible.
He ran pick n rolls 8 feet from the basket for him and Jrue and I wanted to fricking shoot myself watching it
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:25 pm to teke184
quote:He was due $40 million and signed for a little over $6 million. So, they still had to eat a huge chunk.
Wall’s money is offset by anything the Clip Show signed him for past the minimum.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:32 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Did you watch any of the games? He was not good. Who was his competition for rebounds on that team? Many commented about how old he looked and that he was done.
He was far and away the leader in rebounding rate his one season here. His advance numbers show he was one of the better players on the team that year.
He also took a long stretch away from the team. The team itself was terrible (13th in the west). If you go by that, Okafor and Jackson look like really solid players. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:42 pm to NOSHAU
quote:But not when he played. We were +4. when he was on the court, 2nd best on the team behind Zion. And he also had the best On/Off on the team.
The team itself was terrible (13th in the west)
And further, he only played 30% of his minutes with Zion, so those numbers weren't propped up by just being on the court with Zion all the time.
So I don't know what it was, but all I know is not only did he not hold the team back from winning, we played our best ball when Favors was on the court.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:36 pm to NOSHAU
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Did you watch any of the games? He was not good. Who was his competition for rebounds on that team? Many commented about how old he looked and that he was done. He also took a long stretch away from the team. The team itself was terrible (13th in the west). If you go by that, Okafor and Jackson look like really solid players. We'll just have to agree to disagre
Who are you talking to? Of course I did.
You know a player competes with opposition for rebounds too?
Favors rebounding rate at 21% was good for top tier in the league, if he had played enough games.
Your expectations for who he was probably altered your view of him.
Dude was pro.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:49 pm to NOSHAU
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He also took a long stretch away from the team
Make sure your story has accurate details. His mother unexpectedly passed away.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:07 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:I said he had a personal tragedy. Is that inaccurate?
Make sure your story has accurate details. His mother unexpectedly passed away.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:08 am to cgrand
quote:People throw around the term "elite" too easily. Favors was a good player for much of his career, but never elite.
yeah i dont get the favors slander. in his role he was near elite, at least for that team
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