re: The "hot rumor" circulating according to Ric Bucher

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He made some pretty good hires in Detroit.

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Is hiring Larry Brown even a decision? He hired Flip Saunders for a job that anyone not named Phil, Gregg, or Pat would have accepted, then completely undermined him from day 1. I'll give him credit for being ahead of the curve with Rick Carlisle...of course, they didn't get along and he was sent packing.

What were the "good hires" after Flip?

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What were the "good hires" after Flip?

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How many coaching hires do you expect the guy to make?

There's a lot of good stories on it, but the game basically passed Dumars by. He didn't make many good moves over the course of almost 10 years. The game has changed a great deal since then.

Warriors Assistant GM Travis Schlenk looks pretty interesting to me.

He's been pretty instrumental in helping build that team's success. He was a video coordinator that worked his way up through hard work to Director of Player Personnel to Assistant GM.

He's interviewed for several GM jobs over the past few years but was passed over for "big names" at those jobs.

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Tayshaun Prince and Okur between 2000-2010 our championship window would have been longer,

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Prince was the 23rd pick and Okur was the 9th pick of the 2nd rd?

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used cap room on Ben Gordon and Charlie V

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Gordon was 26 coming off a 21/3/3 season knocking down 2 3P a game in Chicago. He was one of the hottest FAs that season

CV was to be 25 coming off a 16/7/1 season in MIL. He was thought to be an up and coming big.

Im sure you and the rest of the Piston faithful were fapping hard at the prospect of bringing in those two young guys to help keep that run going. Obviously those guys shite the bed after getting paid. I dont think anyone expected that. Easy to knock those moves in hindsight.

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signed Josh Smith to play small forward

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Sure, bad move

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traded for Allen Iverson

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Wasnt he a huge expiring?

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dumped a lottery pick to Charlotte to get rid of Ben Gordon

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Again, he dumped 2/$25m of Gordon's contract and the pick for an expiring Maggette. More of Gordon's fault for being terrible.

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gave away Arron Afflalo

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Cmon. If you are a GM, these types of moves happen. In one breath you want to win a title, but at the same time hold on to a young guy who isnt contributing?


As for Darko, every team in the NBA was all in on him. Of course, it only makes it worse that Melo, Bosh and Wade were the next three picks behind him

Your Piston bias is showing through and If i were a piston fan, Id probably hate the guy too.. But anyone can go back and pick apart their GM's terrible moves (it's done here all the time). Easy to do in hindsight. I dont think Dumars is the best GM in the world, but your hate is unfounded.

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Prince was the 23rd pick and Okur was the 9th pick of the 2nd rd?

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...? I gave Dumars credit for both of those picks.

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Gordon was 26 coming off a 21/3/3 season knocking down 2 3P a game in Chicago. He was one of the hottest FAs that season

CV was to be 25 coming off a 16/7/1 season in MIL. He was thought to be an up and coming big.

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You are remembering those signings far more fondly than pretty much anyone else. They weren't good at the time and they certainly don't look good in retrospect.

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Im sure you and the rest of the Piston faithful were fapping hard at the prospect of bringing in those two young guys to help keep that run going.

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No one looked at a sixth man and a soft 4 as potential pieces to a championship puzzle...they were indicative of Dumars latter-phase, acquiring/drafting players who were tweeners that didn't have the talent to execute at either position they were between.

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Wasnt he a huge expiring?

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...it also fulfilled Dumars dream of acquiring Allen Iverson (remember Matt Geiger?) which clouded his judgement to the point he actually traded the glue holding whatever was left of that team together...he also did it so that Rodney Stuckey could take the reigns as the PG of the future. Let that sink in.

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Again, he dumped 2/$25m of Gordon's contract and the pick for an expiring Maggette

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...not sure what your point is here. I'm not on board with dumping Ben Gordon and a lottery pick to clear cap space in a market where the prize was Josh Smith playing out of position.

Like I said...every Eastern Conference team has made the playoffs since the last time the Pistons did in 2009. There is a reason for that, no matter how you are trying to spin it.

It isn't "Piston bias" to claim Dumars was a terrible GM for the back half of his tenure at minimum...I'm not exactly doing it out of hindsight either.

Maybe so. They had their issues defensively, and going to a defensive minded team like the Pistons certainly doesnt help fans remember them fondly.

It was an otherwise bad FA class, and Detroit had the money to spend when AI came off the books.

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Would become a Buck fan

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I'm to keep from

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I'd rather let Austin Rivers coach and put Morris Bart as our GM.. that's hyperbole, but I really don't know what the deal would be as to whom we would get.

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He would get trades done. One call, that's all.

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