re: Queen is trash

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We are going to win 30+ games this year, and if we are in the lottery, it'll be out of the top 5. Losing a top 10 pick hurts. But it's not the end of the world. Very few contending teams built their teams in the high lottery. To make that the centerpiece of your plan is dumb.

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Beginning of the year you said this was a playoff roster. Now you’ve slid down to we will win 30 games. It’s December and we are dead last.

Care to recalculate your projections once again?

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I've already eaten crow several times. It's a disaster

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Pro tip; It’s always going to be a disaster with Gayle as owner. Lower your best expectations to about a 32 win season.

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Very few contending teams built their teams in the high lottery.

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Apart from OKC, Detroit, Houston, Cleveland, San Antonio, etc.

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He also says Zion isn’t injury prone.

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I don't know why you keep trying to re-frame this. I have explained this over and over, but you never acknowledge it. So i will explain it one more time.

Zion is soft, lazy, and a liar. He is out of shape and does not train. I do not trust any "injury" report that has ever been made about him. All of that is many times worse than being injury prone. That term gives him the excuse that circumstances are beyond his control, that he is actually prepared but his body let's him down somehow. Nobody believes that is the case.

Do you see my point now? Does that make sense?

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the Rockets would take a big step back after losing Van Vleet for the season.

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I don't think I said any of that specifically. I stated that they need a PG and need to make a move to get one. They have certainly got by without one to this point. If they don't, i think they will fall out of serious contention. I still believe that. But I'm positive they flip Van Vleets contract soon for additional depth. Also, I don't believe that Durant can keep up this pace all season (35+mpg).

No offense. But I hate your F'n team and wish them all the bad luck they can get. So if you're coming on this board looking for praise and sunshine pumping for the Rockets future, you are barking up the wrong tree. I'm actively rooting for them to fail..

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Y'all don't understand ... instead of Derik Queen, we could actually have a totally random draft pick in a loaded draft. Loaded! Next year's draft is totally loaded, just like it always is. EDIT: Did I forget to mention that the pick that we could have is unprotected? UNPROTECTED! Just imagine what a great player "Unprotected Pick" would be. That dude has mad skillz—what a baller

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You didn’t make the point that the trade was a poor decision. You made an entirely different point.

Now you are trying to backtrack.

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I don't know why you keep trying to re-frame this. I have explained this over and over, but you never acknowledge it. So i will explain it one more time.

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You literally said:



Then when you got called out for that horrible take, you shifted and claimed that Zion is faking his injuries. Now I guess we’re back to your original argument, as you feel it suits your purposes better today.

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I stated that they need a PG and need to make a move to get one. They have certainly got by without one to this point. If they don't, i think they will fall out of serious contention.

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You said it’s a debilitating situation for them and they will have all kinds of issues:

brmark70816:

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No offense. But I hate your F'n team and wish them all the bad luck they can get. So if you're coming on this board looking for praise and sunshine pumping for the Rockets future, you are barking up the wrong tree. I'm actively rooting for them to fail..

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I know, I could tell, which is why your arguments about them have been so ridiculous. You’re guided by your hate rather than facts, which is why you could come up with opinions like this:



You said they’d miss Jalen Green and Dillon Brooks and Fred Van Vleet because 3/5th of their starting roster is gone. I said no, that Jalen Green was a negative, Dillon Brooks is replaceable, Kevin Durant more than makes up for it on the offensive end, and they won’t miss Van Vleet because he slowed the game down and they have facilitators with Amen Thompson, Sengun, and Durant. I said I was excited to see the team without Van Vleet because I think they’d actually improve offensively.

So who was right?

Rockets are currently 4th in offense and 2nd in defense. A gigantic improvement from last season. Net rating is 2nd by a healthy margin.

You couldn’t have been more wrong.

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Can you be more direct on how I am wrong? Do you believe that he is just naturally more prone to injuries?

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He is constantly injured. He lost a bunch of weight and is in the best shape he’s ever been in. He’s still constantly injured. He is the definition of injury-prone. There may not be a more injury-prone basketball player in the history of Western civilization. So yes, whatever the reasons are, he is more prone to injuries than other players.

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I still don't see how what I said is wrong.

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You claimed losing FVV and Jalen Green and Dillon Brooks for an old Kevin Durant would kill them. You couldn’t have been more wrong. They also added Dorian Finney-Smith. He hasn’t even played this season yet.

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The Rockets are not a deep team.

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Other than the PG spot, they are as deep as necessary for an NBA team. They’re certainly not thin anywhere but the PG spot, and Reed Sheppard has taken a big step up and Aaron Holiday is just a solid player as he’s always been on this team. So even their weakest spot has been just fine.

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You just think he's unlucky. Got it.

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No. Some players naturally get injured more than others due to their genetics. In other words, he’s injury prone.

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Ok. So what happens when Durant gets hurt?

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What happens when any team’s star player gets hurt? What’s your point?

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Would the team be better with FVV healthy?

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Who do you think Fred VanVleet is? You obviously aren’t familiar with the Rockets, so let me fill you in. FVV was god-awful last season. He had a TS% of 51%. That’s horrific. Per 36 he averaged 14.4 pts, 5.7 assists with a 51% TS%. For comparison, this season per 36 Reed Sheppard is averaging 18.8 pts and 4.8 assists with a 61% TS%.

So would they be better with FVV healthy? I honestly don’t know. They’d have more depth, but does his play actually make the team better? I don’t think it does. Him being injured may actually have been a blessing in disguise for the team.

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So you aren't anticipating them making any moves before the deadline? No needs or way they can improve?

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I don’t see them trading anyone or making major moves.

This thread is incredible.