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Post 1st-Round Sweep, Offseason Roster Changes
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:50 am
Ill just leave out resigning Boogie bc regardless of our discussion, he'll be back. Also if I was a betting man, Gayle will allow the Pels to go into the tax because as per the plan before the passing of TB, the idea was they would go into the luxury "if this team could compete for a championship." I think its a pretty easy sell to Gayle.
So, first I think its pretty obvious Rondo needs to come back. I want him to finish his career in New Orleans. However, I do think we need a back-up, if anything to learn from him (anyone think FJ can be that guy?).
I'm on the fence with Clark. I like him, I think he's a great teammate and has grown a lot but he's not at all very crucial to our success.
The 2 biggest gaps are a presence on the wing and a bench. Idk what we can do to sure up the bench and I doubt we will get anyone in FA for cheap
As for the wing, my focus is on a familiar player we talk about, DeMarre Carroll. I think Brooklyn would go for Ajinca/Solo/1st for Dinwiddie/Carroll. I really like Dinwiddie too (obviously), but Carroll I think is the missing piece. A guy that is a seasoned vet, career 36.4% 3 point shooter, a solid wing defender, loves to drive to the rim, above average rebounder, and by the time he'll need a new contract, he will almost be 33. And I doubt he'll command the salary he does now.
What says the Pelibros?
So, first I think its pretty obvious Rondo needs to come back. I want him to finish his career in New Orleans. However, I do think we need a back-up, if anything to learn from him (anyone think FJ can be that guy?).
I'm on the fence with Clark. I like him, I think he's a great teammate and has grown a lot but he's not at all very crucial to our success.
The 2 biggest gaps are a presence on the wing and a bench. Idk what we can do to sure up the bench and I doubt we will get anyone in FA for cheap
As for the wing, my focus is on a familiar player we talk about, DeMarre Carroll. I think Brooklyn would go for Ajinca/Solo/1st for Dinwiddie/Carroll. I really like Dinwiddie too (obviously), but Carroll I think is the missing piece. A guy that is a seasoned vet, career 36.4% 3 point shooter, a solid wing defender, loves to drive to the rim, above average rebounder, and by the time he'll need a new contract, he will almost be 33. And I doubt he'll command the salary he does now.
What says the Pelibros?
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 12:50 pm
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:01 pm to DeionDeion
Clark won’t be back, there’s no path to re signing him unless he takes another one year minimum.
FJ is more of an off ball player according to the sons that have knowledge of his game. That’s great but the pels will need another pass first ball handler.
I think you bite the bullet and give rondo part of the tax MLE, unless there’s one type of player-coach mechanism that I’m not aware of. He’s going to need not to play so much in the regular season since the numbers are clear that he torpedoes the defense when not playing lillard & McCollum
Tax teams are extremely limited in the transactions they can make. Dell has surprised us before so let’s see what he can conjure up. In all likelihood the team will be thinner on the bench so unless they can dump solo the contributions of diallo and Jackson will be key
FJ is more of an off ball player according to the sons that have knowledge of his game. That’s great but the pels will need another pass first ball handler.
I think you bite the bullet and give rondo part of the tax MLE, unless there’s one type of player-coach mechanism that I’m not aware of. He’s going to need not to play so much in the regular season since the numbers are clear that he torpedoes the defense when not playing lillard & McCollum
Tax teams are extremely limited in the transactions they can make. Dell has surprised us before so let’s see what he can conjure up. In all likelihood the team will be thinner on the bench so unless they can dump solo the contributions of diallo and Jackson will be key
Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:23 pm to DeionDeion
That’s a solid trade and Dinwiddie expiring does lower his value enough that it could be realistic. However I think there’s too much potential big fish churn that I’d hate to blow our trade assets early on just a solid move. I’d wait for Kemba and McCollum level trades.
I expect small moves. Resign Rondo, break up the MLE to bring back Clark and add a wing like Ennis or Wes Johnson, maybe give Cooke a minimum if they think he’s ready.
I also expect that unless someone specific falls into the 30s, like Diallo when they had him 15ish on their board, they’ll sell their 2nd round pick to help pay taxes rather than trading up to draft another “next year’s 1st round pick”.
So this really should be a boring offseason and bringing everyone back will be the focus unless a disgruntled star trade goes down that we try to get in on. But the in season trade should be exciting, especially if Hill can return to form on defense and find a way to fit in on offense.
I expect small moves. Resign Rondo, break up the MLE to bring back Clark and add a wing like Ennis or Wes Johnson, maybe give Cooke a minimum if they think he’s ready.
I also expect that unless someone specific falls into the 30s, like Diallo when they had him 15ish on their board, they’ll sell their 2nd round pick to help pay taxes rather than trading up to draft another “next year’s 1st round pick”.
So this really should be a boring offseason and bringing everyone back will be the focus unless a disgruntled star trade goes down that we try to get in on. But the in season trade should be exciting, especially if Hill can return to form on defense and find a way to fit in on offense.
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:29 pm to cgrand
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I think you bite the bullet and give rondo part of the tax MLE
A Non Bird Rights deal for Rondo is $3.96 million. The Taxpayer MLE is $5.3. There’s not much point in giving him part of it. If you need more than $3.96 you give him the whole taxpayer MLE.
I was happy to hear in some post game interview Rondo say he hasn’t been talking about playoffs being a goal because he came here to win a championship and he thinks this team has the talent to do that. We may have to give him the full MLE to keep him, but I think he will stay for less money.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:30 pm to TigerinATL
It’s pretty imperative that we turn Ajinca/Solo/1sts into contributing bench players. Dead weight has to be transformed into a functional bench for us to be true contenders.
Hopefully FJ can turn into a decent backup PG.
I will hold out hope that Rondo can come back for 4 mill and then we can use TPMLE on Clark and a wing that can contribute.
But the trades are going to be what makes this team.
I’m a little worried that Dell will use assets very early on to simply dump Ajinca so that we can save tax money.
Hopefully FJ can turn into a decent backup PG.
I will hold out hope that Rondo can come back for 4 mill and then we can use TPMLE on Clark and a wing that can contribute.
But the trades are going to be what makes this team.
I’m a little worried that Dell will use assets very early on to simply dump Ajinca so that we can save tax money.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 12:40 pm to Fun Bunch
Wtf guys, LeBron...
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:04 pm to TigerinATL
Sure we could hold out for a Kemba, John Wall, Bradley Beal, maybe even Kawhi but I don't think we have the assets to make those deals happen. It'll be bidding wars for those guys forcing us to pay above market value and take on bad contracts, which we cannot afford
Whereas Carroll can be had for much below his market value and he fits exactly what this team needs. So even in taking big names into account, a trade with Brooklyn is the better play imo, especially since our 1st is much more appealing at the beginning of the season as opposed to later in the season when we are a top 3 seed
Whereas Carroll can be had for much below his market value and he fits exactly what this team needs. So even in taking big names into account, a trade with Brooklyn is the better play imo, especially since our 1st is much more appealing at the beginning of the season as opposed to later in the season when we are a top 3 seed
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:06 pm to cgrand
I’ve watched every game Jackson played in college and he is definitely not an off the ball player. He is a score-first ball handler who is at his best taking his man one-on-one all the way to the basket.
He has a great first step and can accelerate even better. He isn’t an intuitive playmaker for others though.
He has a great first step and can accelerate even better. He isn’t an intuitive playmaker for others though.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:06 pm to DeionDeion
Crewz keeps ranting on Twitter about a package of Ajinca+Solo+Moore/Mirotic+1st for Paul George. The reasoning is that OKC would take that instead of letting him walk for nothing, especially if they lose to Utah. I think George can opt out this year, so obviously, he'd have to like what he sees in NOLA and want to come play with AD and Jrue, but assuming he does; is something like this even a possibility?
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:08 pm to DeionDeion
I agree with everyone that the move will be mid season.
the window is open for this team regardless of how wide the crack is. They need to go for it and I think they know that
the window is open for this team regardless of how wide the crack is. They need to go for it and I think they know that
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:10 pm to cgrand
there will never again be the opportunity to roll out three to four all stars in this market.
it’s go time
it’s go time
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:30 pm to medtiger
Is PG13 even worth all that?
Indiana is better this year than the we're when he was the lead dog and OKC doesn't look to be any better this yr with him than they were last year without him.
I think we should stand pat and roll with what we have. Bringing a 25/10 guy back on this roster with Mirtoic is huge and hopefully Frank Jackson can be a mini CJ clone.
Indiana is better this year than the we're when he was the lead dog and OKC doesn't look to be any better this yr with him than they were last year without him.
I think we should stand pat and roll with what we have. Bringing a 25/10 guy back on this roster with Mirtoic is huge and hopefully Frank Jackson can be a mini CJ clone.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:52 pm to DeionDeion
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Whereas Carroll can be had for much below his market value
Carroll has been arse since leaving ATL. He has shot 40% from the field the last three years and he’s on the wrong side of 30.
26 year old Niko went for a 1st. So a 1st for Carroll sure as hell isn’t much below market value.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:59 pm to 1ranter1
there's no doubt he was better in Atlanta and there is no getting around his poor 40% from the field over the last 3 seasons, but I think he could handle himself if he becomes an obvious 5th fiddle in New Orleans
and he's still 36.7% from 3 over the past three seasons, and his advanced stats still look solid. Maybe a 1st is too much, maybe 2 2nds is better, but either way, part of the struggle is adding a good player in Dinwiddie and getting rid of Ajinca and Solo
and he's still 36.7% from 3 over the past three seasons, and his advanced stats still look solid. Maybe a 1st is too much, maybe 2 2nds is better, but either way, part of the struggle is adding a good player in Dinwiddie and getting rid of Ajinca and Solo
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 2:01 pm to DeionDeion
if you offered a 1st in any package for Carroll the nets would take it in about 0.5 seconds.
maybe that’s ok and maybe he could be a real asset on the floor but I think you wait on that deal
maybe that’s ok and maybe he could be a real asset on the floor but I think you wait on that deal
Posted on 4/22/18 at 2:03 pm to cgrand
I will say that I think that Brooklyn deal will be there whenever they want it. I don't see anyone offering something for Carroll
Posted on 4/22/18 at 2:07 pm to cgrand
there is of course the possibility that Solomon Hill improves.
this year was lost but (and hear me out) watch him closely in this GSW series.
if he does anything resembling a good job on Durant that would certainly boost his confidence and this team does a good job seemingly on motivating effort and playing to strengths
that would be a game changer
count me in the group that never ever thought Jrue Holiday was capable of what he’s doing now. maybe solo has it in him
this year was lost but (and hear me out) watch him closely in this GSW series.
if he does anything resembling a good job on Durant that would certainly boost his confidence and this team does a good job seemingly on motivating effort and playing to strengths
that would be a game changer
count me in the group that never ever thought Jrue Holiday was capable of what he’s doing now. maybe solo has it in him
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