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re: Pels vs Mavs: Surely
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:37 pm to shel311
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:37 pm to shel311
quote:
and we're a bottom 3 team in the entire NBA in Net Rating....
Against Atlanta, Minnesota, the Rockets, Denver, and Dallas. Who are all healthy.
Man. An nba team severely lacking depth and starters is getting blown out by 4-5 playoff teams/contenders. Who wouldve thought.
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:38 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:It's facts, you can't refute it. Because it's true.
This is the part that made me say you've gone off the deep end.
quote:He is what? You think Zion is scoring efficiently this season?
Then you have the nerve to talk about efficiently scoring, when he is
League average TS%: .571
Zion coming into tonight: .536
It's not that he's not scoring efficiently, he's not even close to scoring at average NBA efficiency. You're arguing it and acting like I'm crazy when it's not even my opinion....it's a literal fact.
quote:I'm waiting for you to tell me the thing he has done this year at an above average level...you've yet to do that. You tried with scoring, but that was factually incorrect. So I'll await the next thing you tell me he's doing well.
That isn't even average according to you
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:39 pm to New City Champ
quote:Especially when your best 2 players aren't the ones injuries.
You just can’t fall apart every time you have injuries. Your club has to be mature and talented enough to win some games short handed. If you can’t do that, you’re not a very good team.
If you can' stay afloat and avoid losing and playing like a bottom 3 NBA team WITH your best 2 players, you have issues.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:39 pm to Soggymoss
I’m not alleviating this front office from Blame. Griff has screwed up the Zion relationship from the jump .
Again , however , a guy that has to be pushed , begged , beaten , cussed out , whatever it may be is the opposite of a leader .
Again , however , a guy that has to be pushed , begged , beaten , cussed out , whatever it may be is the opposite of a leader .
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:40 pm to AboveTheRim
quote:
2 to 1 is not particularly good either.
Lebron is pretty much 2 to 1 for his career, guess he’s not very good either
This post was edited on 11/12/23 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:40 pm to whatiknowsofar
Now list their defensive stats. Z and BI both has the worst DRTG in the starting line up this year. That's scary bad. And CJ has a better block rate than Zion. That insane.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:40 pm to whatiknowsofar
People need to look at the Lakers last season. Changing out some role players turned a 2-10 team into a team that made the WCF.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:41 pm to shel311
Man do you think, and this is totally crazy, but hear me out shel, that playing with Matt Ryan, jre, and the ghost of Larry Nance might bring down his numbers just a bit?
Remember when he looked average but showed off the elite talent in spurts in the beginning of last year? What happened after he got his legs?
Remember when he looked average but showed off the elite talent in spurts in the beginning of last year? What happened after he got his legs?
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:42 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Easy on the read sentences part, you're wrong again.
I said record. Read my sentences before you get super happy about feeling right.
I said we were bottom 2-3, you said name a team better. I named that team.
So no, you did not say record. I stated the parameters, not you.
My point still stands.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:42 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Oof
Shel you aren't even reading my fricking posts correctly how can I expect to debate with you lol
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:43 pm to shel311
quote:
you can' stay afloat and avoid losing and playing like a bottom 3 NBA team WITH your best 2 players, you have issues.
We are literally afloat playing one of the toughest stretches of the schedule.
What are we talking about right now? I swear we are 12 games under .500 at the midway point the way you guys talk.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:43 pm to Soggymoss
This is called a straw man …
Do we really need to compare and contrast Zion to Lebron James ?
Do we really need to compare and contrast Zion to Lebron James ?
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:44 pm to shel311
quote:
you said name a team better
Yeah. I didn't use net rating as a qualifier, because you know, in a short sample size like what you're using, is ridiculous. You added that qualifier. You didn't even bring up playing the schedule we played (I did) because you know that would hurt your argument.
Unless you think the nuggs playing
Atlanta
Minny
A fully healthy version of themselves
Rox
Mavs
Would that hypothetically injured Denver team win any of those games? You would say they could go 1-4 with confidence? Maybe? Big win shel. You sure got me
This post was edited on 11/12/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:44 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:I'm struggling to grasp how low you think of Zion/BI to contrast this thought that there's just no way those 2 dudes could avoid a bunch of fricking blowouts.
Against Atlanta, Minnesota, the Rockets, Denver, and Dallas. Who are all healthy.
Man. An nba team severely lacking depth and starters is getting blown out by 4-5 playoff teams/contenders. Who wouldve thought.
you think those 2 dudes are soooo good but also think they can't avoid being blown out and losing over and over over while playing? Those 2 things don't jive, especially in an NBA where stars routinely put their team on their backs and go out and win games by themselves.
This post was edited on 11/12/23 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:46 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
I didn't use net rating as a qualifier, because you know, in a short sample size like what you're using, is ridiculous.
Wait... why is using NET ridiculous?
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:46 pm to shel311
I kind of agree on this. Both Zion and BI intensity and effort has been seriously lacking the whole season. Something is off, some of this is on willie put this team desperately needs a players only meeting. Someone needs to step up and hold people accountable.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:47 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Just a bit?
Man do you think, and this is totally crazy, but hear me out shel, that playing with Matt Ryan, jre, and the ghost of Larry Nance might bring down his numbers just a bit?
Do I need to post Zion's TS% this season vs last season vs his career, or can you just admit it's not down "just a bit?"
quote:Back to my point about if you're happy with 36 wins and hoping to win the play in or 43 wins and also getting into the play in vs thinking these 2 guys can actually take us places that matter.
Remember when he looked average but showed off the elite talent in spurts in the beginning of last year? What happened after he got his legs?
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:48 pm to shel311
quote:
how low you think of Zion/BI to contrast this thought that there's just no way those 2 dudes could avoid a bunch of fricking blowouts.
They haven't fricking played together consistently in like 2 years. They will be light years better towards the middle of this season, hell they flashed it already.
quote:
also think they can't avoid being blown out and losing over and over over while playing? Those 2 things don't jive, especially in an NBA where stars routinely put their team on their backs and go out and win games by themselves.
Well yeah shel, because you don't play contenders and playoff teams every night in the nba. And they have recently.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:49 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
hell they flashed it already.
When?
If you use last season's first half, remember BI and Zion played less than 20 games together.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:49 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:I did and you responded to it.
Yeah. I didn't use net rating as a qualifier
But READ THE SENTENCES!!!!
quote:They have a dude named Nikola Jokic on their team, you should try to check him out when you get a chance.
Unless you think the nuggs playing
Atlanta
Minny
A fully healthy version of themselves
Rox
Mavs
Would that hypothetically injured Denver team win any of those games?
quote:You thinking Jokic AND Murray can't do shite when Jokic without Murray and a bunch of randoms won something like 48 games
You would say they could go 1-4 with confidence? Maybe? Big win shel. You sure got me
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