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re: Pels vs Mavs: Surely
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Do you think he's played defense well this season?
Lol shel has officially gone off the deep end folks.
Do you think he's scored the ball efficiently this season?
quote:To clarify, you don't have a single post talking up Hawkins and Ryan's ability to knock down 3s, right?
That you bring up his assist numbers is hilarious considering the bums he's passing to for wide open 3s
Zion also played a few games with CJ, Zion averaged 3.8 assists per game in those games with CJ...is 3.8 assists per game good for your best player?
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:27 pm to Macintosh
quote:
Exactly at this point Zion is all talk. He looks the same and his game hasn’t evolved
He’s out of shape, lazy, entitled and a head case. He’s too worried about spitting in some hookers mouth (allegedly) instead of developing his basketball game. It’s amazing what a waste of talent he is. He could be generational like LeBron, MJ, etc. Instead he’s going to coast through a mediocre career based on his reputation while milking the teams for 400 million. Not a bad gig.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:27 pm to AboveTheRim
quote:
He’s turning it over at an alarming rate
He has a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio…
Not sure what it is after tonight, but that was it going into the game.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:27 pm to shel311
quote:
once everyone is healthy,
That wasn't an everyone healthy situation, it was just 80% healthy. Your dramatics is showing.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:28 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Your dramatics is showing.
quote:
whatiknowsofar
THIS.
IS.
RICH.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:28 pm to shel311
quote:
but a few other injuries in their rotation.
Lol you keep downplaying this shite and it's honestly sad at this few.
A few other injuries:
Cj
Herb
Trey
Jose
Just a few dudes. That's all lol
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:30 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Please reread that. You quoted me stating if your best 2 players are healthy but then respond talking about the Nuggets not playing, not sure what you're missing here lol.
I was responding to you
That said this
Me: "If your best 2 players are playing"
Your response: "Because if the nuggets 2 best players weren’t playing"
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:31 pm to Soggymoss
Zion has said himself he’s still learning to be a leader .
But regardless , would you follow someone that shows up unprepared at every turn ? Someone that shows up to work 20% of the time ?
You have to be able to count on a leader . Zion is the least dependable person on the roster .
But regardless , would you follow someone that shows up unprepared at every turn ? Someone that shows up to work 20% of the time ?
You have to be able to count on a leader . Zion is the least dependable person on the roster .
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:32 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
They would easily have the same record as us. If not worse.
You're basically arguing that BI/ZIon is better than Jokic/Murray.
There is exactly a 0.0% chance that Jokic with Murray and even their next 4 best players injured would be a bottom 2 Net Rating NBA team over 10 games. Zero percent, none. It's like you've never watched Jokic play.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:33 pm to shel311
quote:
he's not playing at the level of an average basketball player right now.
This is the part that made me say you've gone off the deep end. Then you have the nerve to talk about efficiently scoring, when he is, it's just not at zion levels.
Just so we're clear, this isn't good enough for an average nba player:
22 pts
7 rebs
4 asts
2.4 turnovers
50.7% fg
That isn't even average according to you. Just stop
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:34 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:You'v yet to refute any of the facts I laid out, except that you think a Jokic/Murray team with scrubs would be a bottom 2 Net Rating NBA team.
That wasn't an everyone healthy situation, it was just 80% healthy. Your dramatics is showing.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:34 pm to shel311
Don’t worry guys, Zion will get it together in year 6. I can feel it. We just need to run it back and get healthy
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:34 pm to AboveTheRim
You just can’t fall apart every time you have injuries. Your club has to be mature and talented enough to win some games short handed. If you can’t do that, you’re not a very good team.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:34 pm to supe12sta12z
I think this also cost SVG his job. BI hated him but he also knew team was better with Zion. Willie probably took this job knowing he had to center yhis team around BI. Griffin is obsessed with BI, I mean BI was involved in designing the city jerseys. Hes not going anywhere unfortunately.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:34 pm to shel311
quote:
There is exactly a 0.0% chance that Jokic with Murray and even their next 4 best players injured would be a bottom 2 Net Rating NBA team over 10 games. Zero percent, none. It's like you've never watched Jokic play.
I said record. Read my sentences before you get super happy about feeling right.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:34 pm to AboveTheRim
quote:
would you follow someone that shows up unprepared at every turn ? Someone that shows up to work 20% of the time ?
This is on coaching and the front office.
As I said in previous post in this thread and as has been said since his career started, Zion HAS to be pushed hard and when you push him hard that’s when you get peak Zion.
Sam Mitchell knew it and still harps on it on his SXM radio show, Coach K knew it and has said it multiple times, Stan knew it and still says it.
However when you have a front office that has had kid gloves on with him since the day he was drafted and now a coaching staff that can’t see you HAVE to play through him, this is what you get.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:BI and Zion are playing, and we're a bottom 3 team in the entire NBA in Net Rating....
Lol you keep downplaying this shite and it's honestly sad at this few.
A few other injuries:
Cj
Herb
Trey
Jose
Just a few dudes. That's all lol
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:35 pm to shel311
quote:
You'v yet to refute any of the facts I laid out, except that you think a Jokic/Murray team with scrubs would be a bottom 2 Net Rating NBA team
Shel you aren't even reading my fricking posts correctly how can I expect to debate with you lol
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:36 pm to Soggymoss
It’s not quite 2 to 1 and is definitely worse than that after tonight .
2 to 1 is not particularly good either.
Again if the expectation is that he is a borderline all star level player… fine . But if that’s the case this team is on the road to no where .
2 to 1 is not particularly good either.
Again if the expectation is that he is a borderline all star level player… fine . But if that’s the case this team is on the road to no where .
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:37 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
Hes not going anywhere unfortunately.
This is what I’m afraid of, but I’m hoping with Griff turning alot of decisions over to Trajan that Trajan can talk some sense into him.
As long as Trajan doesn’t have the same mindset as Griff
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