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Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:21 am to GynoSandberg
that is an excellent question
however, there would be no blame to place if zion could play. He’s that good
That’s really all this is about
however, there would be no blame to place if zion could play. He’s that good
That’s really all this is about
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:22 am to GynoSandberg
Why would Griff be on the chopping block?
He built a good team and has gotten everything the team needs. If the superstar phenom would actually play nobody would even be questioning the job Griff has done.
He built a good team and has gotten everything the team needs. If the superstar phenom would actually play nobody would even be questioning the job Griff has done.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:15 am to Soggymoss
They are 30 games under .500 in Griff’s four years 
but but but
“It was a rebuild” - ok, sure. Who hired SVG and fired him after a season? He’s still collecting a check from us for millions. Of course it’s all about how bad SVG was but what about the guy who hired him?
“We can’t stay healthy” - question - can you name any other head performance guy in the NBA? No. Aaron Nelson was brought in with all this fanfare by Griff. He was the savior. Now he’s out. Again, how about the guy who hired him?
“If the superstar phenom played” - of course. Revert to the above, for starters. Secondly, Zion can make any front office look good. Third, what if you hit on lottery picks Hayes and Lewis? Would this team be able to weather the storm with Zion out? What if Willie Green could coach and we didn’t regress in his second year?
We could get into the other bungles that led us to finally landing on the current crop of players that may or may not be a team that can get deep into the playoffs
This all begs the question of, why would he not be on the chopping block? His seat should be warm, at the least
but but but
“It was a rebuild” - ok, sure. Who hired SVG and fired him after a season? He’s still collecting a check from us for millions. Of course it’s all about how bad SVG was but what about the guy who hired him?
“We can’t stay healthy” - question - can you name any other head performance guy in the NBA? No. Aaron Nelson was brought in with all this fanfare by Griff. He was the savior. Now he’s out. Again, how about the guy who hired him?
“If the superstar phenom played” - of course. Revert to the above, for starters. Secondly, Zion can make any front office look good. Third, what if you hit on lottery picks Hayes and Lewis? Would this team be able to weather the storm with Zion out? What if Willie Green could coach and we didn’t regress in his second year?
We could get into the other bungles that led us to finally landing on the current crop of players that may or may not be a team that can get deep into the playoffs
This all begs the question of, why would he not be on the chopping block? His seat should be warm, at the least
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:27 am to brmark70816
quote:Minutes restrictions and "bursts" are not at all the same thing. You have no further than his first game back to see how inflexible Nelson was and how ignorant the "bursts" were.
I don't know about this. Plenty of players come back with minutes restrictions. Chopping up into smaller blocks is nothing new. It's something many on here were asking for each of the past two seasons. We all wanted him to come back and give us anything. Even a couple minutes a quarter.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:27 am to brmark70816
quote:Yet, you know absolutely nothing about what goes on behind close doors.
But I'm going to take his side in a debate between the training staff and Zion. They are right. Zion is wrong and totally clueless. If he is being terminated because of that, then that is just wrong..
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:55 am to ThePistol
Last season we rushed BI back after every injury and something else went wrong every time. I don't think he played 20 games straight at any point and if he did it was barely. This season he sat until he was ready and never looked back once he got back on the court.
José has usually played thru injuries whenever possible so to think Nelson all of a sudden just started keeping him out of games for no reason is irresponsible to think.
It seems the fanbase is more upset with the lack of information than the actual results. I bet most of us wouldn't have guessed we were amongst the healthiest teams in the league 2 out of the last 4 years.
José has usually played thru injuries whenever possible so to think Nelson all of a sudden just started keeping him out of games for no reason is irresponsible to think.
It seems the fanbase is more upset with the lack of information than the actual results. I bet most of us wouldn't have guessed we were amongst the healthiest teams in the league 2 out of the last 4 years.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:15 am to Soggymoss
quote:But the superstar can't play and a big part of the reason is because he doesn't take rehab seriously. Griff hired Nelson. It was a huge fail. I don't get how Griff bears no responsibility for that?
Why would Griff be on the chopping block?
He built a good team and has gotten everything the team needs. If the superstar phenom would actually play nobody would even be questioning the job Griff has done.
At the end of the day, Griff is the main boss, and it's his job to get through to Zion and get his buy in. If Griff can't do that, at some point very soon, we should be looking to find someone we think can do a better job managing that relationship with our best player.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 10:17 am
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:35 am to shel311
I think we can all agree whoever comes in only needs to worry about Zion's current injuries. When he's healthy and healed clear him. Let him and the strength and conditioning coaches worry about his weight and conditioning. He's a grown up now. He'll have to figure it out himself.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:39 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
quote:When did BI ever rush back from an injury? It is not the fanbase noticing the issue, it is management.
Last season we rushed BI back after every injury and something else went wrong every time. I don't think he played 20 games straight at any point and if he did it was barely. This season he sat until he was ready and never looked back once he got back on the court.
José has usually played thru injuries whenever possible so to think Nelson all of a sudden just started keeping him out of games for no reason is irresponsible to think.
It seems the fanbase is more upset with the lack of information than the actual results. I bet most of us wouldn't have guessed we were amongst the healthiest teams in the league 2 out of the last 4 years.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:07 pm to GynoSandberg
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Who hired SVG and fired him after a season? He’s still collecting a check from us for millions. Of course it’s all about how bad SVG was but what about the guy who hired him?
We never heard why SVG got fired other than a difference in opinion. Stan was hired in the first place because you have two guys that said they want to be coached hard and pushed hard. Only one of them gave you results in that, and guess what happened when we went back to a soft coach that the other guy would prefer to have?
Imo Ingram wanted Stan fired, I’m willing to bet anything Zion wanted him to stay.
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Third, what if you hit on lottery picks Hayes and Lewis? Would this team be able to weather the storm with Zion out?
This team will go as Zion goes, there’s no getting around that and this past season showed that much to be true. Hayes is definitely a bust of a pick, I wouldn’t put Kira on that level because he was taking over a bunch of minutes until his injury, and was taking the backup PG spot and running with it.
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