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re: Pels officially request DPE (Disabled Player Exception) for Miller worth $3.625MM
Posted on 9/18/19 at 6:12 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 9/18/19 at 6:12 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
There's a few around the $25M range though.
Bradley Beal
Gordon Hayward
CJ McCollum
pascal siakam
Myles turner
donatas sabonis
Ben Simmons
Otto porter
Aaron Gordon
one or more of those guys will get moved
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:43 pm to BallHawk
quote:
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 40m
The Lakers have been granted a disabled player exception worth $1.75M from the NBA for the expected season-ending ACL injury to DeMarcus Cousins, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. It expires on March 10, 2020.
Not Pels but it's just crazy that Darius Miller is worth twice as much in the NBA as DeMarcus Cousins.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:54 pm to cgrand
quote:
Gordon Hayward
With him having the PO for next season perhaps they would take the expirings and send us GH with pick(s) so they can have flexibility the following season. I think he is going to have a bounce back season fwiw.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:43 pm to cgrand
Depending on what happens with Ingram, Beal and Hayward make the most sense for the Pels
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:00 am to CocoLoco
quote:
With him having the PO for next season perhaps they would take the expirings and send us GH with pick(s) so they can have flexibility the following season. I think he is going to have a bounce back season fwiw.
Can the DPE be used on a guy with a player option for a second year?
Also, can the DPE be combined with the player the DPE was issued for?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:05 am to Jester
From RealGM:
So, Gordon Hayward is out. Time to move on. Only guys in the true final year of their contract are possible. I'm still trying to determine how the DPE can be combined with other guys. I'm thinking there are major restrictions on combining it with salary, but I'm not sure.
The only thing I've found so far indicates that a players salary must fit into the DPE + $100,000, which seems to indicate that it cannot be combined with existing players to bring in a more expensive player. That seriously reduces the number of trade and buyout options.
quote:
They can use that exception to trade for a single player in the last year of his contract (no options!), sign a single free agent on a one year deal, or claim a qualifying player off waivers.
So, Gordon Hayward is out. Time to move on. Only guys in the true final year of their contract are possible. I'm still trying to determine how the DPE can be combined with other guys. I'm thinking there are major restrictions on combining it with salary, but I'm not sure.
The only thing I've found so far indicates that a players salary must fit into the DPE + $100,000, which seems to indicate that it cannot be combined with existing players to bring in a more expensive player. That seriously reduces the number of trade and buyout options.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:27 am to Jester
Here's a list of players in the true final year of their contract making $3.725M or less:
Thon Maker
Allonzo Trier
Domantas Sabonis
Dario Saric
Taurean Waller-Prince
Kyle Korver
Denzel Valentine
Juan Hermangomez
Yogi Ferrell
Guerschon Yabusele
Omer Asik
Cedi Osman
Bryn Forbes
Malik Beasley
Deandre Bembry
Jeff Green
Anthony Tolliver
Paul Gasol
Jared Dudley
Gerald Green
Tyson Chandler
JJ Barea
Wilson Chandler
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Pascal Siakam
Skal Labissiere
Patrick Patterson
Dejounte Murraay
Isaiah Thomas
Alex Burks
Damian Jones
Matt Barnes
Torrey Craig
Kyle O'Quinn
Michael Carter-Williams
Nerlens Noel
Troy Daniels
Trey Burke
Spencer Hawes
Noah Vonley
Avery Bradley
Shabazz Napier
Tim Frazier
Bruno Caboclo
Emmanual Mudiay
Raul Neto
JaKarr Sampson
Anthony Bennet
Pat Connaughton
Treveon Graham
Willy Hermongomez
Derrick Jones
Jordan McRae
Christian Wood
Wesley Iwundu
Damyean Dotson
Sterling Brown
Dillon Brooks
Dwayne Bacon
Ivan Rabb
Royce O'Neale
Malcolm Miller
Chris Boucher
Tyrone Wallace
Alfonzo McKinnie
Brad Wannamaker
Ryan Broekhoff
Jevon Carter
Deonte Burton
De'Anthony Melton
Alize Johnson
Jemerrio Jones
George Hill
Jonathon Simmons
Justin Hamilton
Shaquille Harrison
Caleb Martin
Festus Ezeli
CJ Watson
Yante Maten
Jaylen Adams
As far as I can tell, that is the list of options currently in the NBA.
Thon Maker
Allonzo Trier
Domantas Sabonis
Dario Saric
Taurean Waller-Prince
Kyle Korver
Denzel Valentine
Juan Hermangomez
Yogi Ferrell
Guerschon Yabusele
Omer Asik
Cedi Osman
Bryn Forbes
Malik Beasley
Deandre Bembry
Jeff Green
Anthony Tolliver
Paul Gasol
Jared Dudley
Gerald Green
Tyson Chandler
JJ Barea
Wilson Chandler
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Pascal Siakam
Skal Labissiere
Patrick Patterson
Dejounte Murraay
Isaiah Thomas
Alex Burks
Damian Jones
Matt Barnes
Torrey Craig
Kyle O'Quinn
Michael Carter-Williams
Nerlens Noel
Troy Daniels
Trey Burke
Spencer Hawes
Noah Vonley
Avery Bradley
Shabazz Napier
Tim Frazier
Bruno Caboclo
Emmanual Mudiay
Raul Neto
JaKarr Sampson
Anthony Bennet
Pat Connaughton
Treveon Graham
Willy Hermongomez
Derrick Jones
Jordan McRae
Christian Wood
Wesley Iwundu
Damyean Dotson
Sterling Brown
Dillon Brooks
Dwayne Bacon
Ivan Rabb
Royce O'Neale
Malcolm Miller
Chris Boucher
Tyrone Wallace
Alfonzo McKinnie
Brad Wannamaker
Ryan Broekhoff
Jevon Carter
Deonte Burton
De'Anthony Melton
Alize Johnson
Jemerrio Jones
George Hill
Jonathon Simmons
Justin Hamilton
Shaquille Harrison
Caleb Martin
Festus Ezeli
CJ Watson
Yante Maten
Jaylen Adams
As far as I can tell, that is the list of options currently in the NBA.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:57 am to Jester
quote:
sign a single free agent on a one year deal
1) sign a player who fits the above description, at 3.6MM
2) aggregate that player with miller's 7MM, moore's 8.6MM (19.2MM total) plus whatever else you want
3) trade for whatever player you can want/can get that constitutes a legal trade
once you sign a player with the DPE, you can aggregate hime however you want
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:13 am to cgrand
quote:
1) sign a player who fits the above description, at 3.6MM
2) aggregate that player with miller's 7MM, moore's 8.6MM (19.2MM total) plus whatever else you want
3) trade for whatever player you can want/can get that constitutes a legal trade
once you sign a player with the DPE, you can aggregate hime however you want
That's a whole lot of moving parts. Sounds like the kind of fairytale moves people were using to justify Demps trying to trade CP3 to Houston....
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:16 am to Jester
quote:
That's a whole lot of moving parts
how?
if they use the DPE, it will be on a FA not currently under contract, on a 1 year deal. all the other moving parts are already on the roster. unless they trade holiday for a another max player, any trade for one will require lots of parts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:50 am to cgrand
quote:
how?
if they use the DPE, it will be on a FA not currently under contract, on a 1 year deal. all the other moving parts are already on the roster. unless they trade holiday for a another max player, any trade for one will require lots of parts
Technically, you're right, but it's very wishful thinking and Santa Clause ain't real.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:23 pm to Jester
you said this:
i then showed you how...
maybe i need more coffee but i really dont know what point it is you are making. using the DPE on a player now makes it even easier to make an in-season trade than it was before miller got hurt. in trade terms, its a free 3.6MM trade exception
quote:
I'm still trying to determine how the DPE can be combined with other guys.
i then showed you how...
maybe i need more coffee but i really dont know what point it is you are making. using the DPE on a player now makes it even easier to make an in-season trade than it was before miller got hurt. in trade terms, its a free 3.6MM trade exception
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:28 pm to cgrand
quote:Except that you have to create another roster spot for the additional player.
i then showed you how...
maybe i need more coffee but i really dont know what point it is you are making. using the DPE on a player now makes it even easier to make an in-season trade than it was before miller got hurt. in trade terms, its a free 3.6MM trade exception
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:35 pm to NOSHAU
But that's obviously Kenrich.
At least I think so. I know some people have said Okafor, but we need him for depth at the 5, IMO. If we got rid of Okafor and Favors got hurt, we wouldn't have a true center on the team other than Hayes.
At least I think so. I know some people have said Okafor, but we need him for depth at the 5, IMO. If we got rid of Okafor and Favors got hurt, we wouldn't have a true center on the team other than Hayes.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:41 am to GOP_Tiger
rockets signed thabo sefalosha to a one year vet minimum, guaranteed. no word if the pels were interested but he could have been a nice fit here
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:50 am to cgrand
Oak for will contribute this year.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:02 pm to BallHawk
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:19 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
The Pelicans’ newly-generated disabled player exception doesn’t open up a 16th regular-season roster spot for the club, but gives New Orleans some extra cap flexibility to add a player. The exception – which has a March 10 deadline – can be used to to sign a free agent to a one-year deal or to acquire a player on an expiring contract via trade or waivers, assuming his salary fits into the exception.
Since the Pelicans already used all their cap space and their room exception, the $3.625MM DPE could come in handy at the trade deadline or during buyout season. However, if the club isn’t in playoff contention, it’s possible it’ll simply go unused.
New Orleans would lose the DPE if Miller is traded before the exception is used.
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