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re: Pels get Looney!

Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13673 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:07 pm to
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5 - Looney/Missi 4 - Queen 3 - Zion 2 - Herb/Trey 1- Fears/Dejountae/Jose That’s a championship caliber 9 man rotation.


Damn, we paying Poole 35 million to be the 10th man lol
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13467 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:09 pm to
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But we didn't pay him like he was in his prime. We need him to give us quality minutes along with Missi. We don't even necessarily need for him to start. He's not getting starter money.


Didn't we? This is the more than he has made in almost every year of his career-

Past Salaries

Season Team Salary
2023/24 Golden State Warriors $7,500,000
2022/23 Golden State Warriors $8,000,000
2021/22 Golden State Warriors $5,178,572
2020/21 Golden State Warriors $4,821,429
2019/20 Golden State Warriors $4,464,286
2018/19 Golden State Warriors $1,567,007
2017/18 Golden State Warriors $1,471,382
2016/17 Golden State Warriors $1,182,840
2015/16 Golden State Warriors $1,131,960
Total $35,317,476

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Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13673 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:12 pm to
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If I was ranking David Griffin's fails, near the top was not setting out to build a team that could win without Z or at least keep it around .500. You knew his injury risk was high. Not hedging that risk better was a major problem


It’s why I made multiple threads pointing out why Griff screwed up not trading for Lauri M. I even said that he was perfect insurance for the inevitable Zion injury.

Think I was told on here you can’t build your team with injuries in mind. This was years ago and man how has that attitude changed on here lol.
This post was edited on 6/30/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13467 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:16 pm to
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Unless there's a trade to come, they basically have 15 slots filled.
Assuming Peavy gets a roster spot. Could end up on a 2 way.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20655 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 6:02 am to
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If I was ranking David Griffin's fails, near the top was not setting out to build a team that could win without Z or at least keep it around .500. You knew his injury risk was high. Not hedging that risk better was a major problem


But this is stupid. Two years ago, we were repeatedly lauded as having the deepest team in the league. And we made the playoffs. Is this supposed to suggest that we should contend while Zion is out injured? That we should have beaten the Thunder in that series?

And how were we supposed to win last season with Trey, BI, Herb, and Dejounte all hurt? It wasn't just Zion. We started games with a bunch of G-League guys. That's not really a problem with roster construction.

Sorry for the hijack.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:32 am to
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Two years ago, we were repeatedly lauded as having the deepest team in the league. And we made the playoffs.


Then turned around and got rid of half the roster to find better fits for Zion. Remember Jonas carrying us to wins? Remember BI carrying us to wins? Remember Naji? Remember Dyson?

The problem with Zion is that a team built to win in Zion's absence is a team that fits poorly around Zion, and Zion is absent frequently.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:35 am to
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I really don’t know what Dumars is doing.

Well I do, he’s running a team like it’s 2002.

No shooting.


and lumbering bigs
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13467 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:49 am to
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and lumbering bigs
Where have we seen that story before?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20655 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:48 am to
From the Warriors writer in The Athletic:

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The Golden State Warriors have lost their backbone.

That was Kevon Looney. That’s what he meant by who they were and how they sustained success for so long.


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A 10-year vet with career averages of 5.0 points, 5.7 rebounds and a half a block per game would seem replaceable.

However, that doesn’t diminish what he did for the franchise for a decade. Anyone who witnessed the Warriors’ dynasty rise and fall, and then resuscitate, knows Looney’s value was innumerable. Winning at the highest levels is as much about the little things. Establishing a championship culture means planting those elements and nurturing them until harvest. And of those little things on which the Warriors are built, Looney was a steward for the highest ones — selflessness, integrity, consistency, humility, resilience.


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In 2018, in a thrilling series against Houston in the Western Conference finals, he became a contributor by holding his own switching onto James Harden.

In 2019, as Durant and Thompson suffered injuries, Looney played through a broken rib cartilage in the playoffs, despite the intense pain that came with every bump and elbow.

In 2020, the Warriors’ lost season that saw them go 15-50, Looney was the veteran in the locker room. With Curry, Thompson and Durant absent, he became a leader and ambassador.

In 2022, when the Warriors needed a boost of toughness and physicality, faced with the daunting challenge of youth, size and athleticism in their opponents, Looney was the answer. Curry, Green and Thompson called for Looney to start in Game 6 against Memphis in the conference semifinals. And he was an anchor even when Green struggled in the NBA Finals against Boston.


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In 2023, he helped rebuild the locker room when Green’s punch of Jordan Poole dismantled its chemistry. Then Looney capped the season by owning Sacramento’s Domantas Sabonis in the playoffs.

Looney’s greatest value to the Warriors came in times of desperation. His value was most clear when things went wrong. When times were tough. No. 5 was the one.

Looney was a rock. He had the respect of the greats and the camaraderie of the youngsters, which positioned him as a critical voice in an ever-changing locker room. His locker was next to Jonathan Kuminga for a purpose. Poole, who Looney will be joining in New Orleans, looked up to his Milwaukee OG.


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Looney was a model of professionalism. He transitioned from starting center to out of the rotation with professionalism. His mere presence was a “do not whine” sign. It’s hard to complain about minutes, about being glued to the end of the bench, while watching Looney endure it all for the sake of the team.

He never concerned himself with hype. It scarcely came, save for the Warriors fans with advanced basketball IQ who could understand his impact. Part of the reason Looney is leaving is that it’s hard for his impact on winning to translate into contract value. He’s a 6-foot-9 forward who sacrificed agility to bulk up to play center. He’s not explosive. He has shot 18.5 percent from 3 for his career. None of this garners a big payday as a free agent.


Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:59 am to
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A 10-year vet with career averages of 5.0 points, 5.7 rebounds and a half a block per game


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Looney’s value was innumerable


Clearly

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Looney was a model of professionalism. He transitioned from starting center to out of the rotation with professionalism.


Are the Pels paying him $8M to ride the pine with professionalism?
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20655 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Are the Pels paying him $8M to ride the pine with professionalism?


I like the smiley in there, as if this comment is funny. No, we will be paying him to play. GSW has Draymond (obviously), and the young and emerging Trayce Jackson-Davis needed minutes, so Looney ended up on the bench.

The only way that Looney doesn't play for us is if Queen somehow amazes as a small-ball center (when most people expect him to back up Zion as a PF).
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Unless there's a trade to come, they basically have 15 slots filled.

Assuming Peavy gets a roster spot. Could end up on a 2 way.


Peavy is already on the roster with a guaranteed contract to my knowledge. He wasn't an undrafted player we drafted him.

We can either trade Hawk for a player or trade both Hawk/ Jose and add (2) players.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:31 pm to
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(when most people expect him to back up Zion as a PF).


If Joe gave up an unprotected first next year for a backup then we have more problems than we know. Queen has to project as a five at times. Now, how long does it take for him to be ready for that role? That is a valid question.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8015 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:40 pm to
Queen is also bigger than Looney
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Queen has to project as a five at times. Now, how long does it take for him to be ready for that role? That is a valid question.


The question is whether Willie will give Queen (and Fears) the proper minutes to develop...all while trying to "win now." It is a fine line to walk. I am not sure Willie and Dumars are skilled enough to walk that line.

Kerr tried to do it with Wiseman/Moody/Kuminga and failed. Although maybe he failed cause those guys were just bad picks and their minutes were not the problem.

If Jose gets more minutes than Fears, and Looney gets more minutes than Queen, this board will erupt even more than usual.
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Queen is also bigger than Looney


The internet tells me they are both 6'9", but Looney has a 7'4" wingspan while Queen has a 7'0" wingspan.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:52 pm to
Looney is also closer to 220lbs while Queen is closer to 250lbs. And at 20 y/o Queen could get taller. It makes more sense to play Looney at PF next to Queen off the bench.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3310 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Jose gets more minutes than Fears, and Looney gets more minutes than Queen, this board will erupt even more than usual.


If Queen barely plays and we are losing, every fan is going to be upset because of how much we gave up for him.

Did Willie Green even said anything about our rookies yet?
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 4:02 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20655 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 4:02 pm to
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If Joe gave up an unprotected first next year for a backup then we have more problems than we know.


Very few rookies start for playoff teams. We have a quality starting five. I don't expect either Fears or Queen to begin the season as a starter. Of course, either could develop to the point that it becomes impossible to sit them, but our roster this season is a lot better at the top than the one in which Herb grabbed a starting job at the beginning of the season.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8015 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 4:14 pm to
The combine measurements say looney is 6’8” and Queen is 6’9.25” when both are barefoot.
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