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re: Pels Game 47
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:03 pm to AboveTheRim
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:03 pm to AboveTheRim
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Ppl are also blaming Ingram tonight he was and he was also good . Scored , made a couple 3s , assisted , rebounded and was okay defensively .
Hahahaha. Are you fricking serious??? His shot selection was horrendous. Where did he make on impactful play on defense?? I’m just being real- you’re putting BI on a pedestal.
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:05 pm to Chad504boy
quote:I coach a team of middle schoolers... they cannot do that
It’s impressive shooting 28% from 3. Middle schoolers can shoot that
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:06 pm to shel311
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I coach a team of middle schoolers... they cannot do that
When you tell them to take more 3s and they just start shooting middies the whole game like BI- what would you do? Asking as a pelicans fan lol
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:06 pm to Pels_Yaz
You are missing the point …
The rebounds are a symptom that show up in every single game .
He plays in spurts almost always on one side of the court and he struggles to maintain it.
If he defended , attempted to rebound, or worked on his game as hard as he attacks the basket at times then he becomes the unmitigated go to player on the team and is an unquestioned all star .
The rebounds are a symptom that show up in every single game .
He plays in spurts almost always on one side of the court and he struggles to maintain it.
If he defended , attempted to rebound, or worked on his game as hard as he attacks the basket at times then he becomes the unmitigated go to player on the team and is an unquestioned all star .
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:07 pm to Pels_Yaz
This team goes as far as Zion drags us. Every single decision should be made with that in mind.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:07 pm to shel311
AM I CRAZY FOR THINKING THIS SHOULDNT BE THAT HARD?
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:09 pm to AboveTheRim
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If he defended
If you thought his defense this game was bad- I don’t know what to tell you. His one bad play was probably going under on a screen for a shooter. His defense was pretty good tonight.
I think you want Zion to be Lebron. I get it thats what people said. Hes not and thats ok. But we cant just shite on him every game when its not true because we’re pissed that pels suck.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:10 pm to Pels_Yaz
I’m not . He was 50% from the field and led the team in points and assist . I said he was okay defensively , not impactful .
It wasn’t meant be a z vs bi comment . They are both flawed and that’s the reason we struggle in crunch time .
Cj was bad tonight and once again we did not get enough from anyone else sans Herb.
It wasn’t meant be a z vs bi comment . They are both flawed and that’s the reason we struggle in crunch time .
Cj was bad tonight and once again we did not get enough from anyone else sans Herb.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:10 pm to AboveTheRim
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No one is debating that he is a good player and has WOW moments . He shouldn’t be blamed for the loss …But he does not deserve to be put on a pedestal like many on the board do.
Ppl are also blaming Ingram tonight he was and he was also good. Scored, made a couple 3s, assisted, rebounded and was okay defensively
I hear you, it's difficult to get some folks on this board to just watch the game and not be so invested in their emotional wants. It's a simple and beautiful team game composed of shooting, rebounding, and passing.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:13 pm to AboveTheRim
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It wasn’t meant be a z vs bi comment . They are both flawed and that’s the reason we struggle in crunch time .
I get your frustration. I feel it too. But this comment here is whats wrong with this team. They dont fit and Willie is a bad coach. Like BI/Zion dont complement each other at ALL.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:14 pm to Pels_Yaz
You need to watch the game back and look at him defensively . Especially against bostons starter/ finisher lineups . Not when Pels were able to hide him on Brisset.
Was it his worst defensive effort , no . Does it qualify as good defense , no .
Was it his worst defensive effort , no . Does it qualify as good defense , no .
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:16 pm to AboveTheRim
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You need to watch the game back and look at him defensively . Especially against bostons starter/ finisher lineups . Not even Pels are able to hide him on Brisset. Was it his worst defensive effort , no . Does it qualify as good defense , no .
Yeah you’re wrong. His defense was pretty strong in this game. He was moving his feet, hustling, getting steals, running at shooters- Im not sure what else you want?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:21 pm to Pels_Yaz
I think Willie gets too much blame, as most coaches do.
Zion is never going to be a good closer . He can only score from one area which makes it hard on him and his team bc defenses can just condense and close to shooters .
Bi likes to play too much iso ball. My plan would be to get the ball out of both of their hands and get them moving off the ball so they can catch and makes plays in rhythm rather then trying to create themselves . So cj or herb would have to initiate in those clutch moments .
Zion is never going to be a good closer . He can only score from one area which makes it hard on him and his team bc defenses can just condense and close to shooters .
Bi likes to play too much iso ball. My plan would be to get the ball out of both of their hands and get them moving off the ball so they can catch and makes plays in rhythm rather then trying to create themselves . So cj or herb would have to initiate in those clutch moments .
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:22 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Yes- you realize we would lose by 25 without him right????
That’s not how the nba works.
Games are generally close until they start giving a shite down the stretch in the 4th.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:23 pm to AboveTheRim
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I think Willie gets too much blame, as most coaches do.
So you talk about rebounds. Do you think its smart to sit your best rebounder JV the whole fourth? Because that’s exactly what Willie did. He deserves a lot of blame tonight.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:24 pm to TeddyPadillac
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That’s not how the nba works. Games are generally close until they start giving a shite down the stretch in the 4th.
Lol you’re serious? You do realize there have been several games where we were blown out and it wasnt remotely close in the fourth right???
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:29 pm to Pels_Yaz
Too much blame does not imply he’s perfect . The logic behind not having JV out there is he is burnt toast in pnr and they would have just picked on him with any of their 3 guys that can dribble pass and score from multiple levels. Did it matter , nope . They just found the other switches they wanted which was mostly Z and cj .
Again Zion rebounding is not just about “rebounds ” its about how he does impact the game vs how he could impact the game if he played with consistent effort and was willing/able to grind . He is a good to really good player most nights but not on the level many on this board talk him up to be .?
Again Zion rebounding is not just about “rebounds ” its about how he does impact the game vs how he could impact the game if he played with consistent effort and was willing/able to grind . He is a good to really good player most nights but not on the level many on this board talk him up to be .?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:32 pm to AboveTheRim
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My plan would be to get the ball out of both of their hands and get them moving off the ball so they can catch and makes plays in rhythm rather then trying to create themselves .
That is exactly what would be best. But there are several problems.
1. There is no other creator on the team. There were several back cuts by Zion and Herb in the 4th quarter that CJ missed while dribbling around the perimeter. He also struggles with his handle against pressure.
2. Even if they had the creator they need, Ingram refuses to play off ball. If he doesn't get the ball at the top of the key or posted at the 3 point line, he stands on the sideline.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:37 pm to AboveTheRim
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Zion is never going to be a good closer . He can only score from one area which makes it hard on him and his team bc defenses can just condense and close to shooters .
Bi likes to play too much iso ball. My plan would be to get the ball out of both of their hands and get them moving off the ball so they can catch and makes plays in rhythm rather then trying to create themselves . So cj or herb would have to initiate in those clutch moments .
I suspect that...barring some serious trades...the plan is for Herb and DD to eventually become major initiators at crunch time. About the only thing that makes sense...and by the way..."sans"??? Ain't no way I can talk serious hoops with some guy that says..."sans"
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:41 pm to Dinky Mulberry
It’s a synonym for minus .
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