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re: Pelicans to have "sitdown" with Greg Oden

Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by MrBlue105
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:15 pm to
He's not worth much more than a minimum deal. I doubt he wants to risk being a cripple to help the pels win a few games.

Eta- I was saying high risk in the context of that money, not the whole team. Risky for the team if we pay him a decent bit tho Nbd
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 8:26 pm
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:17 pm to
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I agree that Oden, on this team with a 1y deal at $2m and change is low risk, high reward.


This is all I'm trying to say. I don't want to give him any meaningful money. 2 million on him won't break us if he doesn't workout. Not to mention I don't think we would sign him if he isn't even close to playing shape. I don't think Dell is stupid
Posted by MrBlue105
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:22 pm to
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oh so your a doctor?


Nice try

Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:32 pm to
If we sign him for 2 years, does that screw up our chances of signing players like Deng, Gortat or Hawes next year?
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:34 pm to
If it does then I don't want him. I want him at the expense of nobody else
Posted by MrBlue105
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:37 pm to
We don't know his value until somebody offers him something and we don't know what dell wil lthrow him. So, it's hard to know the implications
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:40 pm to
That's my main concern is screwing up our ability to sign a player next year.

IMHO, I think Oden may play in 3-10 NBA games in the future, but I think he's done.
Posted by THRILLHO
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:42 pm to
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If we sign him for 2 years, does that screw up our chances of signing players like Deng, Gortat or Hawes next year?



With minimum roster cap holds, we're going to be pretty much up against the cap regardless of what we do with Oden. If we don't move Gordon, next season will pretty much be limmited to extending Smiht and using the MLE, which is going to be ~$5.5m. That could probably get Hawes. Deng or Gortat won't be options unless, again, we move a pretty significant player.
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:42 pm to
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Deng, Gortat or Hawes
deng is light years better than those two scrubs. dont put his name in the same sentence as theirs.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:43 pm to
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And it won't cost us much if it doesn't happen. Hints the low risk!



Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:47 pm to
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I don't want to give him any meaningful money. 2 million on him


$2M isn't meaningful money? Sorry, I'm not willing to pay market value for a dozen broken eggs. I'd rather spend the MLE on a player capable of jumping without suffering a catastrophic injury. You know, maybe someone who can even play a minute or two when needed.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:52 pm to
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I'd rather spend the MLE on a player capable of jumping without suffering a catastrophic injury.


Oden won't affect that. We've already used the room level exception this year, and we'll still be able to use the MLE next year whether Oden is on the team or now.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:54 pm to
You do realize that our roster is pretty much complete? Who would you like to sign that would even break the line up. You and I don't know whether he can play this season or not. All your doing is making assumptions. So tell me. Who would you use the Money on that would see meaningful minutes or have half the ability he has? I'm done arguing this as it is apparent he will never play again from what doctors on here are telling me. If he never plays then cool. If he does then cool too.
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 8:55 pm
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:59 pm to
I'd rather give Withey the 5 minutes a game Oden can play before his knees spontaneously combust instead of wasting our roster space and money.
Posted by WhoDatPelican596
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2013
783 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 9:20 pm to
Exactly. If Oden gets hurt, then withey gets his minutes, fine. We arent rebuilding anymore guys. Cap space saving is done. U wont be getting anyone next year unless someone major gets traded which could be done whether Oden is on the team or not. Oden is, in fact, very low risk-high reward
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 9:20 pm to
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Oden won't affect that. We've already used the room level exception this year, and we'll still be able to use the MLE next year whether Oden is on the team or now.



Okay, take whatever money you are Willing to give him and spend it on someone with legs capable of supporting his own weight.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 9:21 pm to
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Oden is, in fact, very low risk-high reward


bullshite.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 9:23 pm to
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All your doing is making assumptions.


And you aren't? You are assuming this "high reward" bullshite. There is a reason this "high reward" has no offers in hand.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 9:24 pm to
thrillho has the cap stuff down pat on this one.
Posted by Jester
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34717 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 9:24 pm to
Also, "you are" contracts to "you're."
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 9:25 pm
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