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re: Once Pelicans resign Holiday...
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:29 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:29 pm to TigerinATL
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they don't want to pay Holiday more than AD. AD is scheduled to make $23,775,506 next year.
I think that is perfectly reasonable and I don't see how Jrue could disagree. If we could get him for $20-22 mil a year I think thats a win. But the question lies what other offers will he receive?
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:39 pm to DeionDeion
kind of dumb if you scan the nba. steph makes less than klay and draymond. barely more than what iggy made.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:40 pm to Chad504boy
Not for long...
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:41 pm to Chad504boy
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kind of dumb if you scan the nba. steph makes less than klay and draymond. barely more than what iggy made.
Give it 2-3 more years and most of the salaries will be on the new cap. Then max guys will be getting $30-$40 and many of these other salaries will be a lot more palatable.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:42 pm to TigerinATL
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With that cap hold, stretching Asik, dumping Ajinca/QPon, and renouncning Dante/Cook/Toupane you have about $12.4 million in cap space plus the cap room exception which will be about $5 million.
I don't think we would operate below the cap and resign Jrue. After stretching Asik and using assets/cash to dump other players, you only have $4M above the MLE (what does that really get you?) and the room exception. Staying above, we get the MLE, BAE, $3.5M TPE, $2M TPE, Cook/Toupane and the option to re-sign Cunningham.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:42 pm to TigerinATL
yea, but new signings will always be making more than older contracts, just the way it is.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:44 pm to TigerinATL
How crazy would it be to have AD, Boogie, and Jrue all locked up for 3-4 years all under the $30 mil and then suddenly the cap explodes and the max goes up to $40 mil?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:47 pm to NOFOX
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you only have $4M above the MLE (what does that really get you?)
A better than MLE player. Is there a difference between a $12 million player and an $8 million player? I guess it depends on who's picking the players. Last year Demps did better with the $8 million player.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:49 pm to DeionDeion
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AD, Boogie, and Jrue all locked up for 3-4 years all under the $30 mil and then suddenly the cap explodes and the max goes up to $40 mil?
That's not how it's going to work. When Cousins sign his next deal it will probably start around $30-$31. AD's extension will start at $35+
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:52 pm to TigerinATL
If say the cap goes up that high, how much of AD or Boogie's extension would count against the cap?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:56 pm to DeionDeion
They will be making 30% (DC) and 35% (AD) of the cap in their starting year with 8% raises each year. When AD's extension kicks in Cousins might already be counting for 32% of the cap if the cap doesn't rise much.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:57 pm to DeionDeion
Nate Duncan started their Mock Offseason last night. In it, Jrue walked away and signed a 4 year deal worth 111 mil with the Timberwolves, and the Pels ended up signing Jeff Teague to a 4 year deal worth 70 mil after dumping Ajinca with a 2nd.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:07 pm to Epic Cajun
Interesting nugget from Nate Pincus:
First time I have seen someone confirm that previous non-guaranteed contracts are grandfathered in.
quote:
Technically what Rockets are doing would still be legal in July, but over time new non-guaranteed players won't have monetary trade value
First time I have seen someone confirm that previous non-guaranteed contracts are grandfathered in.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:10 pm to TigerinATL
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A better than MLE player. Is there a difference between a $12 million player and an $8 million player? I guess it depends on who's picking the players. Last year Demps did better with the $8 million player.
Right. We have to overpay players in general anyhow. I think we would be better off with the depth of having the TPE's, Cook, full MLE, BAE and the possibility of exchanging Anjica/Qpon/Asikf or more useful players than trying to create space for a $12M player and only having the little MLE.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:24 pm to Epic Cajun
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Once Pelicans resign Holiday...
Nate Duncan started their Mock Offseason last night. In it, Jrue walked away and signed a 4 year deal worth 111 mil with the Timberwolves, and the Pels ended up signing Jeff Teague to a 4 year deal worth 70 mil after dumping Ajinca with a 2nd.
Hmmm.
I actually see NYK as a landing spot for Teague now that the Triangle is over.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:41 pm to Rakim
I wonder if there is a way to construct a deal that the Magic would entertain for Fournier. He seems like he could be a pretty good fit. Maybe something like Moore/Ajinca plus a top 3 protected 1st? I guess that does not fill the need for another ball handler in the backcourt with Jrue.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:44 pm to NOSHAU
I was trying to figure that out earlier, but the problem is Fournier is $17m this year and that'll put us in tax territory this season which is what we don't want.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:46 pm to NOSHAU
Actually Fournier is a good ball handler and can run the PnR very well. He would be my number 1 target this offseason if I were Dell I think he would be perfect with the two bigs. I would do it whether we signed Jrue or not.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:51 pm to Fun Bunch
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I actually see NYK as a landing spot for Teague now that the Triangle is over.
Maybe, I think they may have recorded it before the Phil Jackson news.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:52 pm to BallHawk
quote:Not if we send salary out in the trade. If we got close, we could always stretch Asik.
I was trying to figure that out earlier, but the problem is Fournier is $17m this year and that'll put us in tax territory this season which is what we don't want.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 2:53 pm
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