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Not even Boogie Cousins can save the Pelicans from their general manager's mistakes
Posted on 11/1/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 11/1/17 at 3:56 pm
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There is no question that the New Orleans Pelicans made an excellent trade to acquire DeMarcus Cousins from the Sacramento Kings in February. Cousins has been every bit as good as advertised, even while sharing the ball and spotlight with superstar teammate Anthony Davis. The Pelicans gave up Buddy Hield and a draft pick in that deal: Hield has improved in a more suitable environment and the pick became Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, but New Orleans would do that deal again in a heartbeat.
The question is not whether the Cousins trade was a good one. All evidence suggests that it was. The question is whether the Pelicans were in too deep a hole for the Cousins trade to allow them to recover.
The early evidence suggests that they were.
More at the LINK Nothing new to regulars here, but the national guys rarely do a deep dive on how Demps has mismanaged the roster.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 3:57 pm to TigerinATL
we were supposed to have Solomon Hill and Rajon Rondo on the court.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 3:58 pm to TigerinATL
Sigh
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:27 pm to Chad504boy
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we were supposed to have Solomon Hill and Rajon Rondo on the court.
And they might make a difference when they come back, but the small sample size numbers and source of Ziller's pessimism is how bad the team is when you don't have both AD/DC on the court at the same time. When Dante Cunningham is your best backup big, that's a bad enough situation. When you need him starting at SF to boot...
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:44 pm to TigerinATL
Can someone tell asik to retire
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:53 pm to TigerinATL
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This is the song of Dell Demps: He is a general manager capable of pulling the DeMarcus Cousins trade out of thin air, yet he is also the one who got the Pelicans into such an incredible mess that the Cousins trade was less a moment of reckoning and fear for the NBA than a last-ditch effort to rescue the Anthony Davis era in New Orleans.
Instead of a triumphant victory that put the Pelicans into championship conversations, the Boogie coup has highlighted the remarkable flaws in Demps’ seven-year team-building project.
hard to say it any better than that
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:54 pm to TigerinATL
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In other words, the Pelicans are +14 per 48 minutes — something like a 60-win team — with Cousins and Davis on the floor together. They’re a -13 per 48 minutes — something like a 20-win team — when one or both sits.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 4:56 pm to cgrand
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Consider this: Demps’ Pelicans has traded the team’s 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 first-round picks for Holiday, Asik, and Cousins.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:00 pm to TigerinATL
Pains me to say this but Monty would have this team 5-2 right now. Demps has no vision. You fire a grind it out coach for a small ball run and gun coach then go and trade for the #1 big man in the league? So you have two top 3 to 5 big men in the league and they’re playing on the perimeter chunking threes?
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:53 pm to BigPerm30
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Pains me to say this but Monty would have this team 5-2 right now. Demps has no vision. You fire a grind it out coach for a small ball run and gun coach then go and trade for the #1 big man in the league? So you have two top 3 to 5 big men in the league and they’re playing on the perimeter chunking threes?
Agreed. Can't fault the guy much. He was given an offensive roster while he specializes in defense. Now we have an offensive coach with a more defensive oriented team. What the frick Demps
. Really stupid to fire the guy after he finally breaks through to the playoffs. He deserved at least one more year. Oh well.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:08 pm to ElRoos
In defense of the firing of Monty was that the idea was he wasn’t going to do much more than barely sneak into the playoffs. Not saying it was right, but that was the mindset.
Now the Asik deal was bad, but the team would be a hell of a lot better if Rondo and Hill were playing. They are also still a good team.
Now the Asik deal was bad, but the team would be a hell of a lot better if Rondo and Hill were playing. They are also still a good team.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:27 pm to Colonel Flagg
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In defense of the firing of Monty was that the idea was he wasn’t going to do much more than barely sneak into the playoffs. Not saying it was right, but that was the mindset.
Now the Asik deal was bad, but the team would be a hell of a lot better if Rondo and Hill were playing. They are also still a good team.
On the other hand, in defense of keeping monty, this guy made dleaguers and misfits into a playoff team.
A team of dleaguers is more often than not a sign of a bad gm and a good coach than it is a good gm and a bad coach.
Monty might be able to coach a playoff team, but Demps sure as hell couldn't build one
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:03 pm to TigerinATL
Hey man when I said demps wasn't the answer for this team I piss some people off!hill is a decent forward but ppl talking about if hill was here like his elite player don't get me wrong he is a step above Dante but that's not saying much cause he really not that good. With hill here still we have the record right or wrong let know how you feel about that
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:16 pm to Jnola
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ppl talking about if hill was here like his elite player don't get me wrong he is a step above Dante but that's not saying much cause he really not that good. With hill here still we have the record right or wrong let know how you feel about that
Remember how big of a boost QPon gave the team? It wasn't that QPon was great, he was probably a C to C- SF, but what was there before, Salmons and Babbitt, was F grade SF play, so it was a huge boost. Hill is probably a C- SF, but Dante/Miller have been playing F- level, so he'd make a decent impact. I also think his fit is decent. We have Moore out there guarding Jimmy Butler right now and he's doing ok but already has 3 fouls. He also is a good passer and driver which fits what they want to do on offense.I don't know if the impact will be as big as Salmons to QPon, but it will be a noticeable improvement.
I think the team is missing Rondo even more. The team is literally throwing this game away.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:17 pm to cgrand
Don't get me wrong I give credit to dell for getting the deal done as much I don't like him as Gm for pelicans. I think it was more of the kings wanting buddy cause they owner for what ever reason compare him to Kobe smh the owner really think buddy can be a superstar in this league. I can be wrong but I think king kind spark this deal
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:22 pm to TigerinATL
I agree with you but qpon was a much better 3pt shooter then hill and I don't understand why they give qpon up in that trade. I was hoping they seen something in miller at practice that we didn't see to make that trade but he look just like the last time he was here
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