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re: New Rumors on Joe Dumars to Pelicans

Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17444 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:09 pm to
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basically if Dumars drafts anyone one but Darko in that top slot we are calling him one of the greatest GM's of all time


Wow. One bust of the top 6 picks. Nice draft class. And I agree with your post
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
323 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:24 pm to
Per the Advocate, No plans to hire Joe Dumars

LINK
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Howard Beck ?@HowardBeck 32m32 minutes ago Howard Beck retweeted Kurt Helin Interesting. Exec w/another team told me he'd heard Dumars would be announced as Pelicans president w/in 2 weeks.

Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:37 pm to
theadvocate is usaully pretty reliable with this sort of stuff right? Im not sure how reliable howard is doe
Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
323 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:48 pm to
Ya I read the story, NBC guy is just citing WDSU, which is Fletch, who was totally citing Zach Lowe. So Advocate is probably the most reliable because he, apparently, has a source that is not twitter, unlike Fletch lol.

Here is the totality of what Fletch said:

quote:

Some have speculated Loomis could bring Dumars in as a senior executive with Demps remaining as team general manager.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23233 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:48 pm to
Totally forgot that both Demps and Monty were hired by Hugh Weber lol
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61678 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:53 pm to
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theadvocate is usaully pretty reliable with this sort of stuff right?


None of the locals have much of a track record with this stuff. But the Advocate is the official newspaper of the team, so if the team felt the need to crush the story it would make sense to do it through the Advocate.
Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
323 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 5:21 pm to
Not to rant but a lot of this is hackish by the media.

First, this morning around 9:30 a.m., Zach Lowe reports on a rumor about Joe Dumars possibly being added to the Pelicans front office. No issue with that, Lowe puts a ton of qualifiers in his report which reiterate that it is just a rumor.

quote:

new rumors that Joe Dumars could still arrive in some supervisory big-picture role above GM Dell Demps — rumors that don’t appear to be heading anywhere for now.


Two hours later Fletch writes a report for WDSU entitled "Source: Joe Dumars could join New Orleans Pelicans" which sounds oddly close to those rumors Zach Lowe was talking about, and Fletch clearly alludes to the Zach Lowe piece in his article without mentioning it by name.

quote:

While nothing is imminent, NBA sources have confirmed to WDSU that former Pistons player and executive Joe Dumars could join the New Orleans Pelicans this offseason.


quote:

Some have speculated Loomis could bring Dumars in as a senior executive with Demps remaining as team general manager.


Around 4:00 the advocate, with a similarly styled headline, basically says the rumors aren't true.

quote:

Sources: Joe Dumars not taking over as Pelicans' head of basketball operations; Monty Williams, Dell Demps likely staying


Notice they quote "sources" as in more than one person.

quote:

the sources said, the team’s structure would remain the same with Loomis, who in the past has said that his basketball role was “greatly overstated,” overseeing Pelicans General Manger Dell Demps and coach Monty Williams.


AN HOUR later NBC's national NBA division writes a story entitled

quote:

Report: Pelicans’ front office people meet with Joe Dumars, could have future role


To make matters worse, that story only references the meetings in 2014 about 5 months ago now, and Fletch's article.

In summary, Fletch is a dipshit.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76807 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Fletch is a dipshit.


Water is H2O.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61678 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Not to rant but a lot of this is hackish by the media.


There are a handful of true new breakers and thousands of "journalists" on twitter repackaging what they said.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 6:07 pm to
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Scott Kushner ?@ScottDKushner 1m1 minute ago
#Pelicans Greg Bensel goes on record and confirms Advocate report that nothing is happening between team and Joe Dumars.
Nice self promotion job by Dumars and his people?

quote:

However, team senior vice president of communications and broadcasting Greg Bensel said in a statement: “With so many questions surrounding the end of the successful Pelicans season and now Joe Dumars in particular, no job offer or position has been discussed with Joe regarding the Pelicans.

“He is very close to our organization and our ownership, and he has our utmost respect.”


This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61678 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Nice self promotion job by Dumars and his people?



That depends on who's the source of Zach Lowe's comments, because theJruth diagnosed the situation accurately, this is a fabrication of the Internet Echo Chamber.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 6:12 pm to
Update to the Advocate article:

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However, team senior vice president of communications and broadcasting Greg Bensel said in a statement: “With so many questions surrounding the end of the successful Pelicans season and now Joe Dumars in particular, no job offer or position has been discussed with Joe regarding the Pelicans.

“He is very close to our organization and our ownership, and he has our utmost respect.”
Posted by JackTheStripper
Member since Mar 2015
115 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:03 pm to
No. There's nothing here. Don't post stupid shite disguising it as "something."
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