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re: New Orleans Pelicans vs Atlanta Hawks: fortitude

Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:22 pm to
We missed a shite load of threes. We’ve given up off rebounds almost every game we played.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:22 pm to
frick pride. Stagger BI and Zion in the 4th.
Posted by AboveTheRim
Member since Sep 2020
602 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:22 pm to
Time to call Zion up again apparently . It worked for the preseason game . Dude constantly says he wants to be great but has no clue what that means .

He’s heavy , out of shape , and lazy . Hawks targeted him and dominated . Supposedly our best player but coach has to sub him out bc the opponent eviscerated him .
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17419 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:23 pm to
Curious why Larry only played 15 minutes tonight, he was the only player in the positive +/-.

We have to get better defense out of BI and Zion if we’re to go anywhere, in years past it’s taken Zion 15 or so games to settle in on defense, hopefully he just needs that time.

We’re still on pace for a 55-27 season.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:24 pm to
Can't play BI AND Zion without a center to back them up. Zion as center is a no.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:25 pm to
You guys forgot BI just came back. That means he’ll get going in 5 games. Zion needs a full 10 games to be in shape. Hawks have been playing really well. 4-2 isn’t bad and again still without 3 major bench guys.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33551 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:25 pm to
Don’t be fricking obtuse. JV is a great offensive center. I’m talking about his fit on the team. We need rebounding and shooting not scoring.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:26 pm to
Yup exactly. JV is not a fit with BI/Zion. For them to be better unit they likely will have to trade him.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:26 pm to
I ain't saying I'm mad with where we are. 4-2 is a good start.

But we need to call out the shite that doesn't work.

Zion at center doesn't work. BI and Zion together at the end isn't working (yet?).
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17419 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:26 pm to
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Zion as center is a no.

Zion at the 5 will work, but not this early in the season. He will need 15-20 games to get his feet under him and back into full playing shape.

The BI/Zion combo just doesn’t seem like it will work though, we look like a much smoother faster flowing offense with Ingram out.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:27 pm to
He can't guard the pick and roll, which leaves no one under the rim when they blow past him.

Zion at center fails every year.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:28 pm to
They went 8/31 from 3 as well. No one wins ever shooting like that.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:29 pm to
I recognize that too.

But still we have to call out the shite that doesn't work or we'll keep seeing the same shite.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12964 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:29 pm to
How is it obtuse to say he’s a huge reason we won multiple games? He stepped up when stars were down. Some matchups aren’t as strong. Losing to Atlanta and golden state and 4-2 now. Y’all need to relax. Get on BI or Zion being bad at defense. You think Jonas can do it all by himself? How about you piss on them for being shite defenders that aren’t helping Jonas? He’s not Gobert or Poetl but neither of them are close to his offense.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:30 pm to
I mean I guess even if we call it out we'll still see it. Willie still can't get the fricking lineups right.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:32 pm to
People calling out JV are missing that Willie is playing people in the wrong lineups at the wrong time.

He tried to go all offense for the majority of the 2nd half and we gave up a shite ton of points instead.

The ONLY good run we had in the 2nd half is when JV was in. We actually closed some gap with him in.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:32 pm to
Bro its 6 games. Honestly its not even a trend until 10 games.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4932 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:33 pm to
Willie has a trend of bad lineups since he has been here. It's been more of the same to start.

Center Zion has always sucked because we don't have a PF to back him up.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12964 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:34 pm to
Yeah it’s definitely an issue. I hope Borrego can lean into him on this.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17419 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:34 pm to
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Willie still can't get the fricking lineups right.

That will happen when you have 3 of the main bench guys out
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