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NBA updates future cap and tax projections
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:13 am
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:13 am
Per Shams
2019-20 $109 cap $132 tax
2020-21 $118 cap $143 tax
The Pels will need the cap to keep rising like that once AD is making $40+ million per year.
2019-20 $109 cap $132 tax
2020-21 $118 cap $143 tax
The Pels will need the cap to keep rising like that once AD is making $40+ million per year.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:27 am to TigerinATL
One can hope this is how it goes, but these seem to come in lower lately when the time comes. I'm really hoping KD does go to the Lakers. The league desperately needs the parity. I do believe the Warriors are legitimately holding the league back from growing in a spot where they should be gaining more ground than they are on the NFL.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:40 am to ShamelessPel
I agree about the Warriors, but KD joining LeBron would hardly create much parity. The superteams are the issue. It’d be better for the league if he went to Washington or something. That’d give the East at least 3 legit and mostly young teams moving forward. Plus free up a few others in the West to maybe beat the Warriors
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:55 am to ShamelessPel
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I do believe the Warriors are legitimately holding the league back from growing in a spot where they should be gaining more ground than they are on the NFL.
the "NFL experience" is that every team has a legitimate chance to win...the NBA has never had that, and never will unless they go to a hard cap/non-gtd contracts (which will never happen) OR no cap at all MLB-style (maybe, one day).
frick the warriors i agree, but they are just the latest in a very long line of multi-ring teams
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:54 pm to cgrand
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One can hope this is how it goes, but these seem to come in lower lately when the time comes. I'm really hoping KD does go to the Lakers. The league desperately needs the parity
Do you even parity
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:27 pm to Starchild
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I agree about the Warriors, but KD joining LeBron would hardly create much parity. The superteams are the issue. It’d be better for the league if he went to Washington or something. That’d give the East at least 3 legit and mostly young teams moving forward. Plus free up a few others in the West to maybe beat the Warriors
The East needs to die. It is an antiquated playoff model in the NBA.
KD joining an aging (and less invested by most accounts?) Lebron creates 2 beatable teams for Houston and any other upstarts over the next couple of years.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:03 pm to cgrand
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the NBA has never had that, and never will
the parity argument is so tired. the NBA aint the NFL. it doesnt play by the same rules and it never will. the 2 sports do different things, have different strengths, and different weaknesses. waste of time trying to put square pegs into round holes
tbh, i'd love to see any evidence that the Warriors are hurting the NBA's bottom line or appeal. seriously. someone please share
because this article completely blows a hole in this line of thinking
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The recently concluded NBA regular season has been perhaps the most successful since the league began in 1946. Television ratings are up, attendance set another record, fans are subscribing to the league's streaming service, sales of merchandise are up and the value of an average franchise is at an all-time high.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:04 pm to corndeaux
the league has always been healthier when there are one or two Uber-dominant teams.
it sucks to be a diehard fan of an “other” team because you won’t be seeing them win the finals, but for the bast majority of eyeballs it’s the best possible situation
what’s different now is even better...there is a dynasty AND there are much better players league-wide than there ever has been before
it sucks to be a diehard fan of an “other” team because you won’t be seeing them win the finals, but for the bast majority of eyeballs it’s the best possible situation
what’s different now is even better...there is a dynasty AND there are much better players league-wide than there ever has been before
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:21 pm to corndeaux
Wouldn’t the cap projections coming in lower suggest the NBA is underperforming compared to their own expectations? I generally don’t know the answer to that question.
Regardless, it’s just conjecture. I can’t see why the NBA at its pinnacle (the NBA Finals) being a joke the last two years is good for the league. Having a wide open field with this current pool of talent seems the juicier solution than another multi ring Goliath, this time at the expense of what should be another Golden Age of basketball. In the last 30 years, the only time a team has dominated to this degree was the Lakers (16-1 in 00-01 and almost eerily similar follow up season where they got tested by the Kings similar to GSW/Hou before sweeping) vs the AI Sixers and the Kidd/Martin/Kittles nets. Practically 2/3 the Western conference nowadays would beat those two teams in a 7 game series.
We’re witnessing a real interesting cross pollination of talent. I’d imagine it’s not a coincidence that the generation of kids that were born during the late 80s early 90s and on is finally starting to bridge the difference in talent gaps.
I’m too tired to really debate and I’m rambling corn and my hearts not in the debating mood. I should have deleted this post
, I just really think GSW is robbing us of something special. Who really thinks if healthy they could lose in the playoffs next year? I guess Boston is a ? mark.
I may be in the minority, but I don’t think the bandwagon GSW dickriders are the demographic the NBA needs to shoot for. Those people will always be there. The game 3 and 4 ratings show that. They’ve rode many a dick and will ride the next shiny one to come along. Attract a wider audience. Show just how good and healthy the league is. Put out an exciting and entertaining product. GSW was fun pre Durant. They would have been fun without Durant. I’d argue we were actually robbed of some GSW theatrics through his addition. Now they just feel cheap, especially when they just obtained a household name like Demarcus Cousins. To the casual viewer, that name on that team likely means more than it will translate to statistically.
Regardless, it’s just conjecture. I can’t see why the NBA at its pinnacle (the NBA Finals) being a joke the last two years is good for the league. Having a wide open field with this current pool of talent seems the juicier solution than another multi ring Goliath, this time at the expense of what should be another Golden Age of basketball. In the last 30 years, the only time a team has dominated to this degree was the Lakers (16-1 in 00-01 and almost eerily similar follow up season where they got tested by the Kings similar to GSW/Hou before sweeping) vs the AI Sixers and the Kidd/Martin/Kittles nets. Practically 2/3 the Western conference nowadays would beat those two teams in a 7 game series.
We’re witnessing a real interesting cross pollination of talent. I’d imagine it’s not a coincidence that the generation of kids that were born during the late 80s early 90s and on is finally starting to bridge the difference in talent gaps.
I’m too tired to really debate and I’m rambling corn and my hearts not in the debating mood. I should have deleted this post
, I just really think GSW is robbing us of something special. Who really thinks if healthy they could lose in the playoffs next year? I guess Boston is a ? mark. I may be in the minority, but I don’t think the bandwagon GSW dickriders are the demographic the NBA needs to shoot for. Those people will always be there. The game 3 and 4 ratings show that. They’ve rode many a dick and will ride the next shiny one to come along. Attract a wider audience. Show just how good and healthy the league is. Put out an exciting and entertaining product. GSW was fun pre Durant. They would have been fun without Durant. I’d argue we were actually robbed of some GSW theatrics through his addition. Now they just feel cheap, especially when they just obtained a household name like Demarcus Cousins. To the casual viewer, that name on that team likely means more than it will translate to statistically.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:28 pm to cgrand
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the league has always been healthier when there are one or two Uber-dominant teams
This isn’t really true. People apply this to the Lakers/Celtics/Bulls etc from 98 and before. It’s a full 20 years later. We’ve had dominant teams since then and ratings wise the NBA isn’t exactly blowing people away. I swear it feels like this is like a WWE storyline, even more so with the insanely dumb TV deals WWE just signed. There needs to be a progressive thought process. Ratings still suck. They should be better with the collection of talent. No risks are taken.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:29 pm to ShamelessPel
The last time they revised the projections down it was because there were too many sweeps so ESPN and Turner didn’t pay for as many playoff games.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:03 pm to TigerinATL
That’s precisely my point. If the NBA is making less money than they project to bring in, why would people assume the Warriors are healthy for the league?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:21 pm to ShamelessPel
Because they became the villain after LeBron redeemed himself by returning to Cleveland. As beautiful as the game of basketball can be, it’s the storylines that sell the game.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:30 pm to ShamelessPel
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KD joining an aging (and less invested by most accounts?) Lebron creates 2 beatable teams for Houston and any other upstarts over the next couple of years
It’s amusing you single out Houston as the ones to take down a Lakers team with Durant (same age as Harden) and LeBron (same age as Paul) who are both better than Houston’s best and have a younger core outside of them. The Warriors would still not be a pushover even without KD either.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:40 am to TigerinATL
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Because they became the villain after LeBron redeemed himself by returning to Cleveland. As beautiful as the game of basketball can be, it’s the storylines that sell the game.
Lebron faced them twice before Durant joined. Are you telling me the inevitable Durant-less rubber match with both teams finally freaking healthy isn’t a ready made storyline for the league? It’s not hard to generate stories in the NBA. Pretty much anything is more interesting than the story the NBA is telling now.
Further, even in your analogy, to turn James into a good guy, you had to turn a good guy into a villain. You didn’t just gain a +1 in the good guy column. GSW was a likable team playing an extremely entertaining form of basketball. People didn’t really even mind Draymond and they certainly didn’t fault them for their riches. They were a successful version of the Nash Suns.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 5:51 am to ShamelessPel
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Wouldn’t the cap projections coming in lower suggest the NBA is underperforming compared to their own expectations? I generally don’t know the answer to that question.
I am no expert here. At all. I do think it has to do with sweeps two years ago (not just Warriors, but Cavs and other teams) And that teams overshot their loads in FA in 2016. All the numbers (ratings, revenue, etc), as far as I can tell, are up.
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Attract a wider audience. Show just how good and healthy the league is. Put out an exciting and entertaining product.
This is an interesting point. IMO, wider audience is attracted to star power. The Warriors have that in spades and they get eyeballs even in a non- competitive finals
Its people like us, diehards, who are less interested in the Warriors. But we aren't going anywhere. And like cgrand said, it's especially tough if you're a diehard fan of an "other" team
I did think the regular season was spectacular and the playoffs too (sans Finals). So many fun teams, and reporters are over regular season Warriors because they sleep walk for 7 months. so they look for other stories. Which is healthy for the league, I think
Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:28 am to ShamelessPel
Villain was perhaps the wrong word, maybe Obstacle is a better word? Jordan wasn't the villain of the Jordan era for instance but he certainly was the obstacle to quite a few talented teams and HOF players.
And yet ratings are going up.
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I agree that the league doesn't want a superteam that makes the champion a foregone conclusion before the season even starts, but if a few other teams add enough talent to challenge the Warriors, like Houston did last season, it becomes interesting again, even if that makes it even harder for the back half of the league to ever have hope of becoming a champion.
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Pretty much anything is more interesting than the story the NBA is telling now.
And yet ratings are going up.
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After dipping last season, the NBA’s average television viewership rose to a four-year high in 2017-18.
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I agree that the league doesn't want a superteam that makes the champion a foregone conclusion before the season even starts, but if a few other teams add enough talent to challenge the Warriors, like Houston did last season, it becomes interesting again, even if that makes it even harder for the back half of the league to ever have hope of becoming a champion.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 7:56 am to TigerinATL
Warriors need to be challenged like last year for the league to keep growing imho.
The 2016-2017 season was horrible, they steamrolled the league and nobody cMe close to stopping them.
The 2016-2017 season was horrible, they steamrolled the league and nobody cMe close to stopping them.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:08 am to Starchild
The NBA is becoming a joke.
This will be Davis' last year as a Pel
The Twolves are imploding, they will lose Butler and Towns
Leonard doesn't want to play for a Hall of Fame coach in San Antonio
This will be Davis' last year as a Pel
The Twolves are imploding, they will lose Butler and Towns
Leonard doesn't want to play for a Hall of Fame coach in San Antonio
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:11 am to TigerinATL
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even if that makes it even harder for the back half of the league to ever have hope of becoming a champion.
never has been the case that the "back half" has a chance, and never will be the case
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