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N/P (sort of) Lonzo Ball still injured, will not play to start the season
Posted on 9/2/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 9/2/22 at 4:52 pm
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Bulls guard Lonzo Ball is not expected to participate in training camp and is doubtful for the start of the regular season with lingering pain and discomfort following knee surgery in January, sources tell me and @ramonashelburne ESPN story:
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Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:06 pm to Soggymoss
Beginning to wonder if his career is in danger.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:09 pm to NOSHAU
It very well could be at this point if he’s got knee pain but no damage
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:16 pm to Soggymoss
before the left knee it was his left ankle.
that’s a really bad contract if he can’t play
that’s a really bad contract if he can’t play
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:26 pm to Soggymoss
Bullet [Dodged] Not Dodged
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:31 pm to Solo
quote:13/5/5...devonte Graham’s career averages are 13/3/5
Prior to the injury, Ball had been one of the sparks of the Bulls' fast start, averaging 13.0 points, 5.4 rebounds and 5.1 assists.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:06 pm to cgrand
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13/5/5...devonte Graham’s career averages are 13/3/5
Graham can't touch Lonzo. Lonzo actually plays defense and gets steals and blocks. The biggest difference though is Lonzo is improving year over year and Graham is at best maintaining, in my eyes he is getting worse. They both make bonehead decisions and that is why I rather not see either play in a Pels uniform.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:26 pm to armsdealer
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Graham can't touch Lonzo. Lonzo actually plays defense and gets steals and blocks. The biggest difference though is Lonzo is improving year over year and Graham is at best maintaining, in my eyes he is getting worse. They both make bonehead decisions and that is why I rather not see either play in a Pels uniform.
Last season, and now this season, injuries are keeping Lonzo sidelined, then the Bulls deal sucks compared to Graham.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 6:41 pm to armsdealer
Lonzo and graham have very (very) similar counting stats and advanced stats. Lonzo is the far better defender and rebounder (he’s the bigger player) and graham is the far better shooter. Overall stats, PER, win shares etc are nearly identical
you could say they both identically suck I guess
you could say they both identically suck I guess
Posted on 9/2/22 at 7:26 pm to NOSHAU
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Beginning to wonder if his career is in danger.
It is.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 8:12 pm to Soggymoss
And to think I used to get laughed off of this board when I suggested Lonzo was fragile and extremely injury prone.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:16 pm to 3PieceSpicy
you were also all up in griffs arse for not getting more for him LOL. Fragile and injury prone isn’t worth what it used to be I guess
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:41 pm to cgrand
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you were also all up in griffs arse for not getting more for him LOL. Fragile and injury prone isn’t worth what it used to be I guess
I said a bunch of times, he should have been traded for Lauri M when he was offered. They at least pulled a first for him. Sinething we couldn’t do.
And this should surprise no one. At least it will be a whole lot easier to trade Graham. Especially if he starts nailing his threes on the 2nd team.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 11:42 pm to cgrand
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graham is the far better shooter.
I’m by no means a Lonzo apologizer, but I just don’t see how you come to this conclusion usless you discount the last two years of Lonzo’s growth. Lonzo has had 2 consecutive seasons with far better shooting stats than Graham has ever had in his career. Graham is and always has been an average shot chucker that could rack up some assists with high usage
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:09 am to cgrand
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and graham is the far better shooter.
In no world has this ever been true
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:44 am to cgrand
I mean we all pretty much were lol. It was still a bad value trade and free agency offseason period if we are being honest with ourselves.
Luckily, Portland decided to blow it up and the GM who never would’ve traded CJ wasn’t there anymore, so we were able to use the money/cap saved to pick up CJ. But that definitely wasn’t a guarantee. That just happened to work out in our favor.
Luckily, Portland decided to blow it up and the GM who never would’ve traded CJ wasn’t there anymore, so we were able to use the money/cap saved to pick up CJ. But that definitely wasn’t a guarantee. That just happened to work out in our favor.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 8:03 am to cgrand
Honestly Lonzo is better than Graham no doubt.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 9:35 am to nicj4
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Honestly Lonzo is better than Graham no doubt.
And we are lucky as hell that we didn't resign him. No one would take Lonzo over CJ.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 11:14 am to Bronc
quote:It certainly was before the past couple of years.
In no world has this ever been true
Posted on 9/3/22 at 4:13 pm to shel311
His knee must be gone. At this point it’s never going to get better
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