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re: MLE SF Discussion Thread
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:29 pm to Solo
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:29 pm to Solo
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If we trade ryno for about 75% of his salary/filler, can we stack that extra money onto the MLE and get a solid wing?
No. Trade exceptions can be broken up (ie $10 can get you 2 $5s) but can't be bundled with anything else.
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:57 pm to TigerinATL
Okay, thanks.
So, in reality, the current roster is what we will see in 2015, unless EG is traded at the deadline.
I hear some noise about Reke, but we'd be insane to flip Jrue the keys with his injury issues.
Ultimately, AD signing his max deal, EG coming off the books at the end of next year, and what we do with that money, are what will determine if this team is ever going to be a championship contender.
So, in reality, the current roster is what we will see in 2015, unless EG is traded at the deadline.
I hear some noise about Reke, but we'd be insane to flip Jrue the keys with his injury issues.
Ultimately, AD signing his max deal, EG coming off the books at the end of next year, and what we do with that money, are what will determine if this team is ever going to be a championship contender.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:57 pm to Solo
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I hear some noise about Reke, but we'd be insane to flip Jrue the keys with his injury issues.
So, we have a major weakness (defense) and brought in a coach to improve the offense through ball-movement and spacing. Tyreke is a bad team defender and a notorious ball-stopper. If you want to get a good SF that fits the roster, Evans and Anderson are the best bet to do that. Evans probably has more value than Anderson at this point.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:58 pm to eyeran
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+ David Lee
Which makes me wonder how much value Ryno really has in Gentry's offense. David Lee is basically a tougher Ryno.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:03 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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David Lee is basically a tougher Ryno.
David Lee is more like, can't find a good comp off the top of my head actually. Was going to say David West but West takes more mid range jumpers, but the bulk of Lee's shots are 10 feet and in. He doesn't take 3s at all, so nothing like Ryno other than they're both white and bad at defense. A 3 point spacer would have much more value to a modern offense than a 10 and in PF.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:07 pm to TigerinATL
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David Lee is more like, can't find a good comp off the top of my head actually. Was going to say David West but West takes more mid range jumpers, but the bulk of Lee's shots are 10 feet and in. He doesn't take 3s at all, so nothing like Ryno other than they're both white and bad at defense. A 3 point spacer would have much more value to a modern offense than a 10 and in PF.
You're right. I don't know who I was thinking of, or if I just made that shite up.
Just gave it some thought, and I was confusing him with Matt Bonner, the other white PF from Florida.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:21 pm to Solo
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Michael McNamara @McNamara247
@usnfish After the pod, Amin said he thinks Koufos will get a bigger contract than Asik
One more center ahead of Asik in line gives more leverage to us either in signing Asik to a team friendly deal, or Asik agreeing to a S&T to get his money.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:29 pm to TigerinATL
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One more center ahead of Asik in line gives more leverage to us either in signing Asik to a team friendly deal, or Asik agreeing to a S&T to get his money.
Also gotta hope guys like Brook Lopez and DeAndre go to teams with cap room. Fills two center roster spots around the league and opens two more, but for teams without cap room.
You can take a risk and hope the musical chairs plays out with Asik only having you and MLE teams as an option.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:45 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Jrue is always injured, bro.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 4:09 pm to Solo
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Jrue is always injured, bro.
And Tyreke is always a poor-defending ball-stopper. Jrue's tibia will never change that.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 4:14 pm to cgrand
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option 2: sign AFA, who can also play small-ball PF
Yes please
Posted on 6/5/15 at 7:01 am to txbd
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:34 am to Smedium27
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LINK
List of possible MLE small forwards
I don't think Brewer or Crowder can be had for the MLE
I really think it comes down to Green vs. Dunleavy vs. Dudley
After the podcast, I asked Amin about Dudley and he says he loves Milwaukee and wants to finish his career there, then move on to coaching or broadcasting.
Green is a guy Dell has liked in the past, and Dunleavy is a high IQ guy that can pick up both schemes easily. After watching the athleticism in the Finals last night, it is hard not to want to roll the dice on Green, or even KJ McDaniels.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:42 am to Crewz
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After the podcast, I asked Amin about Dudley and he says he loves Milwaukee and wants to finish his career there, then move on to coaching or broadcasting.
He said similar when he was on the Lowe Post, he really did seem to like the situation there...BUT he also did not like the climate, and if your goal is broadcasting, playing on a contender is better than playing on a small market playoff team. Pelicans aren't contenders yet, but with the soon to be best player on the planet, his odds of breaking through in New Orleans with AD and Gentry would be better than in Milwaukee. So between the climate, the coach and the more up and coming team, I think the Pelicans could make a good sales pitch to him. Part of what he said he liked about the situation was being the veteran leader that the young guys were looking to for guidance, he'd have a similar situation in New Orleans.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:43 am to Crewz
When watching the game last night I was thinking, "Man, we don't have anyone outside of AD that would/could drive the lane and finish strong". Tyreke dunks maybe 2 times a season, that isn't Jrue's game, same with Pondexter and Gordon. We don't really have an explosive guard or wing player.
I'd be happy with getting Green and having him in a roughly 50/50 split with Pondexter at SF.
I'd be happy with getting Green and having him in a roughly 50/50 split with Pondexter at SF.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:48 am to Crewz
Same depressing list.
If we have to go with multiple years, would rather spend it on someone young.
If we have to go with multiple years, would rather spend it on someone young.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:52 am to Epic Cajun
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Green
Danny Green could play Austin Rivers in a motion capture film.
Thats not saying anything about basketball ability, or really adding anything of value to this conversation, but they move the same.
Add to the fact that yall are talking about Gerald Green, then it really adds nothing to this conversation. But I will leave it for general enrichment.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:54 am to Hester Carries
Well, I was referring to Gerald Green, but I would love Danny Green. There is zero chance he goes for the MLE, though.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:57 am to Solo
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If we have to go with multiple years, would rather spend it on someone young.
I don't know how much leash Demps and Gentry have, but I have to imagine that anything less than 50ish wins and making the playoffs would be viewed as a big disappointment. I don't see them using the MLE to take a risk on a young guy like McDaniels when there are much more proven guys like Green and Dunleavy available.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 9:49 am to Solo
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Same depressing list.
If we have to go with multiple years, would rather spend it on someone young.
I would seriously consider going the other way. Go for a 1 or 2 year stop gap and hope to get the perfect guy in 16 or 17.
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