re: Lowry & 76'ers

The market for Jrue is suppressed IMO. If Hill re-signs with Jazz that still leaves Lowry, Curry, CP3, Teague, Rose, Mills, Collison out there in free agency plus Rubio and probably Lin via trade.

I'm not saying he's coming back but it's also not a foregone conclusion he departs either.

Assuming Curry, Lowry, and Paul all re-sign with their respective franchises who is left?

Philly - got the 3rd pick tonight and will most likely go after DeAaron Fox or Lowry if available

NYK - while they are a possibility they don't have the cap space to make a serious run at Jrue. Plus, he would be going to a worst situation

Brooklyn - worst team in league. Unless money is mindblowing I don't see it happening

Denver - possible and be fits a need but not sure if they want to blow the cap space they have for Jrue or if they want to get someone like a Darren Collison for cheaper

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I wish we could pull off a sign and trade with them but I don't know what the Pels could get from Philly.

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All the Pels would get was a trade exception, and they'd probably have to pay to get it by sending Philly cash or a 2nd rounder. But if you get a $30 million trade exception then that opens up all kinds of trade scenarios. You no longer have to send out Ajinca and Pondexter to get a player back, you can just trade for the player and the team you're trading with gets them off of their books.

I'm not sure if this deserves it's own thread or not because I'm not sure how speculative it is vs how much it comes from talking to sources,

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Pelicans Podcaster? @SilverAndMac 38 minutes ago

The question with the Pelicans 2018 first rounder isn't IF Dell will trade it, but WHEN?

My prediction is that pick is gone by July if Holiday leaves, January or February if he re-signs

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That tells me that either they don't plan to trade for a PG like Bledsoe if Holiday resigns, or they think they can get the player they want without the 1st. Maybe it means they'd be happy with Collison or Teodosic, or maybe they think they can get Rubio or Lin for less than a 1st.

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maybe they think they can get Rubio or Lin for less than a 1st.

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If we can get Rubio for less than a 1st, I hope we go that route. Doubt it though. That quote is MM, so that is not something new from him.

I think you could get Rubio with an offer of Moore Ajinca and maybe like two future 2nd rd picks. They need someone to replace Lavine until he gets back from his acl tear.

MM followed up with more.

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Pelicans Podcaster? @SilverAndMac 26 minutes ago

Pels DREAM offseason looks like:

Re-sign Jrue, starting at 21-24
Use MLE on Mills
Get developmental wing at 40
Solid finds for depth

Now, I don't know if this is possible. The interesting scenario is if they can get Mills, but it will require them dumping Moore, stretching Asik, losing Cunningham, etc to do so, will they do that? Or the same could be said for JJ Redick

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I'm just really confused of what they think of Holiday, or maybe I just don't appreciate Mills as much as I should. Having 2 combo guards doesn't seem like it solves the problem of not having enough shot creating guards, although Mills would help in other ways like spacing.

I also think that is fanboy like wishful thinking that the Spurs would let Mills walk for the MLE and then he would pick New Orleans.

ETA - I would like to see them resign Jrue, sign Tony Snell, and then turn Moore into Rubio.

What will be interesting is if they go after Ben McLemore. AD and Ben are very close, but not sure of his relationship with Cousins.

In my DREAM offseason, the Pels lose or sign and trade Jrue and get a bunch of quality guys with 1-2 years left on their deal. They become a 6-8 seed next year, then a 4 seed the following year, then take a shot at a Wall or a Butler, etc

Likelihood they get them? Small. But it's a home run swing and I'd prefer that

It's very clear

If he costs MLE, you don't gotta lose anybody

But if his price tag is say 12 mil per, then you gotta shed people and operate below the cap

The thinking is that AD and Cousins will make far more plays than most PF's and C's, so creation is five man job

Hayward has a zero percent chance. Jrue and Mills having to settle for those prices have a 25% chance or better. There are a TON of PG's coming in via the draft, many young ones growing, several more on the trade market and a few better than both in FA

I don't think it's impossible. Improbably? Sure. But if you are the Spurs, why give Mills 30 over the next 3 when you got Dejonte for like 7 over the next 3?