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Lonzo shooting 39% from 3.

Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:21 am
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:21 am
But while the improvement is marginal vs. last season (38%), it is still a very respectable percent.

Even more, though, is the fact the he improved his free throw % by HUGE amounts the last 2 seasons, which signals that he is a competent shooter you can rely on most games.

He went from 42% in 2018-19, to 57% in 2019-20, to 77% in 2020-21. That's consecutive jumps of 15% and 20%, improving 35% overall from 2 years ago.

Just something to consider when we decide to keep him or not.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:30 am to
the impressive part is the % with the attempts.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66523 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:37 am to
I think He’s definitely been playing like we hoped he would since February.

He’s still only averaging 1.1 FTA a game.

I like Lonzo, he needs to add a runner or something to his game.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25553 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:42 am to
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Even more, though, is the fact the he improved his free throw % by HUGE amounts the last 2 seasons, which signals that he is a competent shooter you can rely on most games.



So you would be ok with Lonzo getting fouled and shooting 2 free throws up 1 with 10 seconds left?

His FT% is almost insignificant b/c he never gets to the line. He's shooting less free throws this year than last. He pretty much gets to the foul line once every other game.

Lonzo has played in 38 games, a total of 1205 minutes. He's attempted 43 free throws in the 1205 minutes.
NAW has taken 41 free throws in 748 minutes.
Kira has taen 27 free throws in 442 minutes.


The next step for him is to get to the line more than once a game. There's no reason someone with his athleticism, size and usage shouldn't be taking 3-4 FTA per game.

I said it last year, if Lonzo would be smarter with his 3 point shots he'd be a 40% 3 point shooter easily. When he has the time to set his feet and shoot his shot with confidence, he's almost automatic. I can tell when he lets the ball go if i expect the ball to go in or not. We've seen a lot less stupid step backs, deep 3's, and 3's early in the shot clock where he passes to no one and takes his own shot.
He's shooting 41% on catch and shoot this year, and that's 5.5 of his 7.8 3 point attempts per game. That's 70%. He's shooting 31% on all other 30% of threes he's taking.
He shot 39% on catch and shoot 3's last year, taking 67% of his threes that way, and again 31% on all other threes.

More telling for the decline of Bledsoe is the fact that he has been on a downward trend of FTA since 2017 where he attempted 6.9FTA, and now sits at 2.2FTA. Clear sign that his athleticism is leaving his body.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 8:55 am
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10392 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:50 am to
Ball is a flame thrower in the first half of games. His issue is the steep decline in his shooting percentages behind the arc in the second half. If he could hit his 3s at a decent rate in the second half of games, we'd probably win more games.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25553 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:59 am to
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Ball is a flame thrower in the first half of games. His issue is the steep decline in his shooting percentages behind the arc in the second half. If he could hit his 3s at a decent rate in the second half of games, we'd probably win more games.



2019
1st quarter 45% on 1.9 attempts
2nd quarter 30% on 1.3 attempts
3rd quarter 32% on 1.6 attempts
4th quarter 37% on 1.5 attempts

2020
1st quarter 45% on 2.6 attempts
2nd quarter 44% on 1.6 attempts
3rd quarter 32% on 2.2 attempts
4th quarter 30% on 1.6 attempts
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10392 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:08 am to
Looks like he's more comfortable hitting 3s when we play at a good pace where he seems to be in better rhythm. We generally play with good pace in the 1st half of games and tend to slow down once teams make adjustments to Williamson and Ingram in the second half leading to more half court sets and probably less ball movement.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25553 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:17 am to
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Looks like he's more comfortable hitting 3s when we play at a good pace where he seems to be in better rhythm. We generally play with good pace in the 1st half of games and tend to slow down once teams make adjustments to Williamson and Ingram in the second half leading to more half court sets and probably less ball movement.




Yep.


anyone that has watched this team a good bit should be able to tell when Lonzo shoots the ball with confidence and when he takes a bad shot.
Giving him the ball with 5 seconds left on the shot clock after the play breaks down is usually going to end in a bad shot or turnover, and i don't say that like it's a bad stat for Lonzo, b/c the majority of players aren't capable of being efficient in that scenario.
The issue is like you said, the opposing team adjusting to BI and Zion and our offense becoming stagnant. We keep talking about losing games we are ahead in as a young problem, but i see it more as a coaching problem. Sometimes other teams make adjustments, and a lot of the time that happens we usually do not, and that's why we blow double digit leads in the 2nd half so often.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:30 am to
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anyone that has watched this team a good bit should be able to tell when Lonzo shoots the ball with confidence and when he takes a bad shot.


It's a glass half empty/full situation. Either he has a fatal flaw that will always keep him living up to his potential, or he still has a ton of room to improve and maybe become a 40%+ 3 point shooter with real gravity.

If I'm Griff I challenge Lonzo to hit the weights hard this summer. I want to see what added strength does for him. It should improve his defense and his ability to drive. When he aggressively drives now he often looks a lot bigger than the guy guarding him. He should be able to do so much more than he's doing. I think the glass is half full, the key question is will the glass be in our price range.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:50 am to
Zion affect is big here.

7.2 of Lonzo's 7.8 3 pt attempts are with the closest defender > 4 ft away from him. He got 5.8 of these type attempts last year.



Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 2:31 pm to
I think the team should also invest in a sports psychologist for Lonzo lol.

I’m honestly not really joking though, I think part of his reluctance driving the ball is clearly
mental. Likely a residual fear of being fouled and embarrassing himself at the line.

But Lonzo is a legit solid FT shooter now, fouling him is now a good outcome for him and us.

And the times he has shown confidence doing it you can see the pieces are mostly there, just some additional skill work and repetition.
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