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Let's try to make logical sense of the reasoning of hiring Joe Dumars
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:44 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:44 am
Let's try to look beyond the laziness of the hire, of the friend connections, and things like that.
What would be an actual, basketball, logical reason for going with someone like Dumars?
If they really, REALLY believe in Bryson Graham but do not think he is ready for the big job for a variety of mostly political reasons, then someone as respected as Dumars as a positive figurehead at the top, that brings some professional gravitas to the role, while Graham does most of the basketball stuff...
Does that make sense? Its the only thing I can come up with.
What would be an actual, basketball, logical reason for going with someone like Dumars?
If they really, REALLY believe in Bryson Graham but do not think he is ready for the big job for a variety of mostly political reasons, then someone as respected as Dumars as a positive figurehead at the top, that brings some professional gravitas to the role, while Graham does most of the basketball stuff...
Does that make sense? Its the only thing I can come up with.
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:48 am to Fun Bunch
Even with this logic, Graham will still be handcuffed and used as a puppet from management.
Trust me man I've tried like crazy to logic this situation as well it's just not possible. Like best case scenario if Dumars pulls out why would any other candidate want to come here with ownership already mandating them and giving restrictions to the role? Like this situation can't be flipped to a positive. It's impossible.
Trust me man I've tried like crazy to logic this situation as well it's just not possible. Like best case scenario if Dumars pulls out why would any other candidate want to come here with ownership already mandating them and giving restrictions to the role? Like this situation can't be flipped to a positive. It's impossible.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:53 am to Fun Bunch
Maybe Joe Dumars presents a personality to the franchise that will be more respected by the players and won’t get walked over like a snake oil salesman that griffin did
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:59 am to Chad504boy
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Maybe Joe Dumars presents a personality to the franchise that will be more respected by the players and won’t get walked over like a snake oil salesman that griffin did
Say that again out loud and then tell me if there’s any sliver of hope that any of it is true. I’m so tired of this retard and her moron minions fricking up sports in this town. Sell the fricking team.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:00 am to Chad504boy
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Maybe Joe Dumars presents a personality to the franchise that will be more respected by the players and won’t get walked over like a snake oil salesman that griffin did
This goes into the what they likely think.
It is fricking retarded though
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:29 am to Fun Bunch
People like to reduce GMing down to tactics and strategies, but it is so much more than that. Relationships are a big part of the equation and Dumars is as connected as anyone.
BUT, connections are only one part of the equation. I would be very concerned if the plan was "Dumars is the best person on the market to save us". The only plan that isn't terrible is exactly what you suggested. "We really believe in Bryson Graham and Joe is the kind of senior advisor that can help him succeed."
I'm not saying that's a great plan, but any other plan than that and this is a terrible move. Even if you like what Dumars had to pitch about fixing the team, you still go out and get other pitches.
BUT, connections are only one part of the equation. I would be very concerned if the plan was "Dumars is the best person on the market to save us". The only plan that isn't terrible is exactly what you suggested. "We really believe in Bryson Graham and Joe is the kind of senior advisor that can help him succeed."
I'm not saying that's a great plan, but any other plan than that and this is a terrible move. Even if you like what Dumars had to pitch about fixing the team, you still go out and get other pitches.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:31 am to TigerinATL
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Even if you like what Dumars had to pitch about fixing the team, you still go out and get other pitches.
Where have we seen something like this before...hmmm...
Nico Harrison, on line 2
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
Rigging the draft to give us the #1 pick is literally the only thing that would make this hire make sense.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:55 am to FireGoodell
Well this thread is pretty relevant now
Let's try to cope
Let's try to cope
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:56 am to TigerinATL
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People like to reduce GMing down to tactics and strategies, but it is so much more than that. Relationships are a big part of the equation and Dumars is as connected as anyone. BUT, connections are only one part of the equation. I would be very concerned if the plan was "Dumars is the best person on the market to save us". The only plan that isn't terrible is exactly what you suggested. "We really believe in Bryson Graham and Joe is the kind of senior advisor that can help him succeed." I'm not saying that's a great plan, but any other plan than that and this is a terrible move. Even if you like what Dumars had to pitch about fixing the team, you still go out and get other pitches.
Our best hope is that Dumars is there for the relationship aspect of the job and Bryson will be in charge of analytics, draf, team building philosophy.
Otherwise we’re fricked
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:59 am to FireGoodell
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Rigging the draft to give us the #1 pick is literally the only thing that would make this hire make sense.
And at this point, the franchise has ruined 2 Cooper Flagg level prospects within 15 years, why would they rig it to give us a third? We could’ve hired Adam Silver as GM and it would still be ridiculous for the NBA to do it.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:59 am to TigerinATL
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Even if you like what Dumars had to pitch about fixing the team, you still go out and get other pitches.
The people in charge have no fricking clue how to do this
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