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re: It’s a Make-or-Break Season for Zion Williamson’s Superstar Status- the ringer
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I don't understand writing him off.
What does this mean in your mind? Like is it black or white for you?
I wouldn't say I'm writing him off in that he can be a useful player when healthy, but I think it's fair to conclude he isn't the messiah that was promised, which is kind of a problem because all of our eggs went into that basket.
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:34 pm to Broski
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but I think it's fair to conclude he isn't the messiah that was promised, which is kind of a problem because all of our eggs went into that basket.
Like I said, he gave you 70 games last year. That's a marked improvement. If he gives you 70 plus this year in better starting shape (which he is) and can stay healthy we can absolutely go on a run with him being the number one option.
It's just early. And the med staff is being Uber cautious (which is fair too)
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:37 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Like I said, he gave you 70 games last year.
And missed the playoffs... on top of not playing at an all star level.
You can keep saying this until you're blue in the face, it's not making the point that you think it's making. In fact, it only raises more questions for Zion. Like I said, it's becoming apparent he's not the messiah that was promised.
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It's just early.
Except it's not with Zion... it's year 6
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:45 pm to Broski
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And missed the playoffs... on top of not playing at an all star level.
It's an improvement over his games played. No one thought he would play 60. And he played 70.
He wasn't elite last year, but he was towards the end, and he's in better starting shape now than he was November of last year.
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it's not making the point that you think it's making. In fact, it only raises more questions for Zion. Like I said, it's becoming apparent he's not the messiah that was promised.
Well no shite, but he can go on a run. He's done that before. It's a matter of him actually being able to do it in April that's eluded him, but him playing 70 games last year tells me it isn't impossible for him to make it a little further this year.
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Except it's not with Zion... it's year 6
It's early this year. Why does him playing 70 games last year not count for anything?
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:47 pm to whatiknowsofar
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It's early this year. Why does him playing 70 games last year not count for anything?
No one said it doesn't. But why doesn't the way he played in those games count for you?
And you keep parading that out of one side of your mouth while also saying it's no big deal that he's missed three of the first ten games this year.
You can't have it both ways bawski.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:55 pm to Broski
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But why doesn't the way he played in those games count for you?
I keep saying that he's in better starting shape this year. That's why I'm more optimistic about this season.
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And you keep parading that out of one side of your mouth while also saying it's no big deal that he's missed three of the first ten games this year.
I never said it's no big deal. I've only ever said I understand the trepidation but it is early this season.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:57 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I keep saying that he's in better starting shape this year
Is he though?
He's about to miss back to back games with tightness and soreness.
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That's why I'm more optimistic about this season.
...but he's currently on pace to play in less than 70 games this year.
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I never said it's no big deal. I've only ever said I understand the trepidation but it is early this season.
By qualifying the time of the year, you're literally saying it's no big deal
C'mon baw.
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:02 pm to Broski
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:10 pm to Broski
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which is kind of a problem because all of our eggs went into that basket.
I've been screaming this for 3 years. You are forced to build a roster that only works with him for it to work with him. Then he misses half his career and you struggle to stay afloat until fit Zion finally shows up.
Dude has a loser mentality, and I want it gone.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:23 pm to Broski
Not a big deal vs not a big deal yet is a little different.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:24 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Not a big deal vs not a big deal yet is a little different.
You're floundering more than Ochsner is with Zion's body.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:25 pm to Broski
Oschner has screwed up many things, but they get zero blame for Zion.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:39 pm to Broski
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You're floundering more than Ochsner is with Zion's body.
Sure. Hopeless optimist in me i guess
Posted on 11/4/24 at 5:29 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Same as we always see, not as good as year 2 numbers.
What do you really think he's capable of this season shel? Give me some tangible numbers, ignore games played.
Tell me what you think he's going to put up pts assists and rebs. And his fg%
23/7/5 on 56%from the field.
Good player, not top 10, not good enough to be a #1 on a legit team, not as good as year 2 Zion.
That's who he is. We should know that at this point.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 5:31 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Those 70 games are what proved Broski's you quoted correct.
Like I said, he gave you 70 games last year.
He didn't even sniff All NBA and led us to the play in.
How did that prove anything other than we now know he is not the dude we thought we got on draft night?
Posted on 11/4/24 at 5:46 pm to shel311
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He didn't even sniff All NBA and led us to the play in.
How did that prove anything other than we now know he is not the dude we thought we got on draft night?
I'm going off him being in better shape to start this year vs last year, having a real pg to make things easier too. Roster construction can make a difference difference.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 5:48 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:He's also started this revenge year being lazy like the start of last season and not going all out on both sides of the ball like post AS break Zion last season.
I'm going off him being in better shape to start this year vs last year
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 5:49 pm
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