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re: Ingram is not a max player

Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:04 pm to
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Ingram is not a max player
He is for a bad small market franchise in New Orleans
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:05 pm to
He was also on a #1 seeded team with prime D Rose. Ingram had a promising start until Lebum went to LA and changed everything. They both got to the all-star game in their 5th year as well. At 24 Butler led his team to a 4th seed with Rose out, they got gentleman swept in the 1st. I could see BI doing that if we had a veteran coach capable of a 50 win 1st seed team, and a roster to match.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:06 pm to
New York would have given him a max in a heartbeat.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:07 pm to
With Randle already on a max deal?

Eh I doubt it
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

They weren't good fully healthy. If James thought Ingram was a star or max player, he would have never moved him. He would have just waited for David to bolt.


Lol they were battling for a top 4 seed in the West when James hurt his pussy. So again, what the frick are you talking about?
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:03 am to
as fans it galls to see a guy like ingram considered a max anything.

hes not a great two way. or even known as a two way at all like say brooks of Memphis who got only 1 vote for Dpoy. 15 guys got a vote or three.
not ingram.

hes not great in clutch 2 minutes.

hes a good shooter. nothing much else.
if that's worth max it hurts to cut the check.

fwiw i saw a trade proposal yesterday had ingram worth 3 good memphis guys and 3 #1 picks (two memphis and one back from pels deal) did not get jjj not brooks and not morant.
some writer sees ingram worth a ton. or its just click bait.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:14 am to
He’s more than just a shooter.

He’s top 15 in ppg in the league, and every one above and the 5 players below him are all max players(or will be when eligible) besides Derozan, who is having a career year so far but still makes right around what BI makes this year because of vet scale.

BI complaining comes down to needing a lot of perfect being the mortal enemy of the good energy.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:24 am to
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He’s more than just a shooter.

He’s top 15 in ppg in the league

i get it that max is market for a one time nba all star.
looks like his game is just a shooter to me.
what else is there?

This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61504 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:25 am to
We spent years hating on Jrue for not being CP3. We eventually accepted and appreciated who he was and now we miss him. The problem was never with Jrue, it was the other holes in the roster. The same is true with Ingram.

I really hope they find a way to get a lead guard so we can start focusing on what Zion and Ingram can do instead of what they can’t do.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:40 am to
quote:

really hope they find a way to get a lead guard so we can start focusing on what Zion and Ingram can do instead of what they can’t do.



manifest your vision.
look at tankAThon.
any pg strike your fancy?
how about a deal?
jv for a two way pg with not too much wear on tires.
jv defense PnR says "not on wcf champ".
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 10:30 pm to
Bump after that completely disinterested game from Ingram. He looks checked out.
Posted by Maybe Next Year
Member since Apr 2021
159 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 10:59 am to
On this team of G-Leaguers, BI is a marked man. PERIOD!!!

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25554 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:03 am to
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Bump after that completely disinterested game from Ingram. He looks checked out.




he really does. He's looked disinterested the last 2 games.
I watched the first 8 minutes of the game on Saturday and turned it off b/c of what i saw from him. Didnt watch last night as i was busy watching a team that actually gives a shite in LSU, but watched the extended highlights and i said to myself once i got near the end of it "i've seen BI make 1 shot in these highlights". Check the box score and looks like he had a pathetic outing, again.


Can't really blame him too much. He's human, and i'm sure he's very frustrated. Still expect better from him, but he needs to snap out of it b/c when you are a max contract guy, you can't give these kind of efforts.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27874 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:13 am to
Why does BI not get more heat for getting paid and becoming content?

I feel like you used to constantly hear stories about staff having to unlock the gym for him at like midnight because he wanted to get shots in. Not anymore.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:22 am to
Not sure if putting more "heat" from fans is going to produce any positive impact on him or the team.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:28 am to
I don't give him a pass for being a max player and being frustrated.

Look at our line up last night, 4 players of the 12 that played would get minutes on a playoff contender.

Ingram
Valanciunas
Hart
Jones

And that 4th one is pushing it.

We are a bad team.
We are a thin team.
We are down a starting PG and PF on a team where there's no backup that is worth a damn. This team somehow went from asset-filled to nothing, very...very quick.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:36 am to
Ingram has looked checked out and uninterested the last few games. I'm getting worried he will ask for a trade.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27874 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:14 pm to
That’s no excuse for BI to just absolutely suck.

Beal was second in the running for a scoring title last year and he was playing those games with a bunch of junk, too.

If he’s injured, say he’s injured. Otherwise, he needs to be substantially better.
Posted by Maybe Next Year
Member since Apr 2021
159 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:14 pm to
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I'm getting worried he will ask for a trade.


Be honest, wouldn't you? BI is playing with less talent than 'That's All Folk's' ever played with.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27874 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:18 pm to
BI is certainly a reason we’re 3-14.
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