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re: I’m torn on lonzo now

Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:14 pm to
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Then ya also realize Ball is 23, has played only 182 games, and is playing for his 3rd coach in 4 years


You seem decidely less bearish on Ball than most. Do you think he'll improve beyond his current 3&D skill set?
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12852 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:25 pm to
He's showing more than just 3&D
right now though. He's showing that he can play in the half court on ball as well as off ball. His mid range off the pick has been money all year and his recent effectiveness on the dribble penetration has been impressive. The layers of his game are unfolding and he has quite a bit of potential. Hell, there's even some off ball movement in space now to get open as well.

Lonzo Ball as a 15ppg scorer is a real thing and could be higher as he hit his prime years. I think Ball will be special once consistency is achieved.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78207 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:25 pm to
This team needs a reliable D and 3 player.

Can Lonzo be reliable?

Honestly, if we can’t trade him for someone good I say keep him and see how the season plays out.

If he was just in an early season slump and really shoots well going forward than we should keep him around.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26038 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:29 pm to
His agent is rich Paul. Klutch wants him in Chicago. Move his arse now.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73913 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

You seem decidely less bearish on Ball than most. Do you think he'll improve beyond his current 3&D skill set?



He’s improved in one area or another every year. Tells me he’s working.

When he came here, it was “I don’t want him, his dads an a-hole”

His dad hasn’t made much of a peep. Then it turned into, “well guy can’t shoot!”

Then he drastically alters his shot and improves his shooting

Then it becomes, “yeah but he’s not consistent “

Strings together a few good games and now it’s “rich paul is his agent”


Guy can’t win. Now it’s like he’s the only guy that has risk when it’s time to sign to a long term deal. He’s shooting 37% on 540 3PA with us (Beal is shooting 35% on 631 3PA in the same time frame fwiw) and playing good defense - if that’s the ground floor of his skillset at age 23, are we doing that bad? Or just searching for reasons to hate on him
Posted by PolishFan
Member since Feb 2021
156 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:50 pm to
Very good post (and the previous ones as well) I am really rooting for him as he might our best chance or the easiest chance for the third star and he actually fits Zion and BI with his character. If he doesn’t turn the corner then I won’t be advocating for a big contract for him but I don’t get it why so many fans hate him so much
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1611 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:50 pm to
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To me, even shooting well, there are just a lot of holes and non-complimentary aspects to his game relative to our two best players that I think if you have a good offer in place you should probably take it.

There’s also just rumblings that suggest to me he is still hellbent on chasing a glamour market and I worry about what that fosters over the course of another contract as he maneuvers himself(and likely recruits others) to chase bigger markets after his first big pay day.


Agree completely.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21847 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:16 pm to
Trade him
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
110780 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:54 pm to
Not a fan of Lonzo
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13476 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:22 am to
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His agent is rich Paul. Klutch wants him in Chicago. Move his arse now.


So since you read one speculation article on the internet and you have come to the conclusion that he wants to play for the Bulls? Rich Paul and Griff have a good relationship. If Ball wants out, they will work together to do that. This should not be like the AD fiasco if that is indeed the case.
Posted by Milesahead
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
691 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:43 am to
How can anyone wanna trade the war-chest for Beal when you put it that way?
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