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CelticDog
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
B-

development of rookies not to the point of A grade for team.

naw needed erie. as soon as it showed, he should been sent down.

hayes needed erie. i know he was thrown into the breech early when favors was out but asap he should have been in erie working on his game.


zion was not fit.
yes his injury was a factor but who approved his diet?
could he not swim?
boo. hiss.
must say he looks as much a force as shaq. wowser.
he will be mvp of nba in two years.

lonzo is aggravating. doesnt respect possessions.
thinks hes an entertainer.
theres no good backup either.
when you look at playoffs next year frank and naw are not it. sign some very good ufa to be pg/jrue.

if this is how season.ends pels get a mid first.
the mock guys mid first all have warts.
no ncaa and maybe no chicago tryout camp.
it will be a challenge to pick a good one.

hire a ft coach.
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redfish99
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
C+. Gentry held us back. Better roster than record indicates.


VOR
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
Actually the roster played to its talent and experience level


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Pistol44
Member since Jun 2019
108 posts

re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?

I'm an optimist:

Front office A-
Great job of roster construction, less letting go of Christian Woods. He would have helped tremendously w/o Zion and fits our current stretch big need. From AD leaving to where we are now is night and day. Hats off to Griff and Trajan

Coaching B
They have done a great job with development and instilled the style of ball that fits with our roster. The style of play supports 3+ 20 point scores (think GS /w KD, Steph, and Klay). Absolutely need to continue to develop and instill a better defensive mindset. Have to keep in mind that this is an extremely young team but a commitment to defense will be the difference in this team being a contender or champion in the near future.

Zo B+
We saw the real Zo the last month, full-court game is off the charts and his shot is improving. Defense also picked up (being healthy helped). Look to improve FT % and limiting turnovers. Would really like to see a defensive version of Evil Zo.

Jrue B
Jrue, after a rocky start started to resemble Evil Jrue more often than not. Best perimeter defender in the NBA, want Jrue here for the long-haul.

JJ- A-
JJ was as advertised, a sniper. Really missed his presence and movement over the past week and a half. Keeps the floor balanced and spaced.

BI A-
Came off an injury that prevented him from touching a ball through the summer and straight balled. Cornerstone of the team In my opinion. Needs to continue to gain core strength, hand strength (take better advantage of his length) and tighten up his handles. Better defensive footwork will go a long way to prevent him from getting into foul trouble

Zion B+
Young man is going to dominate. Would give him an A but he missed half the season. Needs to develop his midrange game and handles to take pressue off him running up against 2-3 defenders at the rim. A 15-20 foot face up game ala Tim Duncan would make him unguardable. Shame season was cut short he was just rounding in to shape.

Hart A-
Hart gave us exactly what we needed at critical points of the season. A hard nose swiss army knife. Would like to see him work on lateral quickness and his 3 ball.

Favors B -
Solid showing from Favors, it cannot be overemphasised how much his presence was missed in the 6-22 start. Defensive IQ is great and would love to see him stay with the team long term. Needs to develop a 3 ball to take pressure off Zion and BI on the high pick and roll game.

Melli B
After a slow start Melli got adjusted to the NBA pace. Great Ball IQ and deceptively slick hands and feet. FO found a gem.

NAW C
The preason fooled him a little bit, young man has great skills and needs time to develop, could never quite adjust to physicality and pace of the regular season. A professional off-season in the weight room will do him wonders.

Frank C
Up and down season. He is making a commitment to defense and was a plus in a couple of games, this is where his niche might be. Has the offensive and physical tools but is limited by his ball handling where improvement is needed.

Jah C
Up and down season too for Jah. Capable of scoring 20 a game but needs to work on his footwork. It seemed to me he lost a little of his strength with the weight loss. Needs to be able to make his presence felt when he's on the court.

Etwan B-
Etwan showed big in a couple of games but is limited by his size (tweener). Would love for Etwan to stay but may want to seek more minutes elsewhere.

Jaxon B
Jaxon just needs to develop his understanding of the game. His physical tools are off the chart but needs to translate them to on court action. Nees to live in the weight and film room to maximize his gifts. May be a better athlete than Zion. Has a good stroke but needs to develop touch around the rim.


ArcticTiger
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
In spots A-B, as whole you ae still a sub.500 team and out of playoff contention so F!


CelticDog
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
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Look to lonzo to improve FT % and limiting turnovers


turnovers will not change.

is what is.

some full court passes are stupid basketball.
high risk, high reward.

no, thats not good ball.



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CelticDog
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
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Jaxon just needs to develop his understanding of the game. 


use of word just in that sentence is wrong.

just implies little.

there are 500 high school junior bigs with better touch around the basket.

they practiced.



CelticDog
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
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favors  Needs to develop a 3 ball to take pressure off Zion and BI on the high pick and roll game


wait a minute.

he cant shoot at all.
ft shooting is awful because no arc on shot.


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Pistol44
Member since Jun 2019
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
Of course, turnovers can be limited. Agree that the high paced offense leads to more turnovers than a methodical set but the lackadaisical and bail-out passes after leaving his feet (that he (Zo) has reduced) certainly will factor in limiting his total turnovers.

Why can't Favors develop a 3 ball? Lopez, Aldridge and Baynes have become serviceable 3 point threats after being non-threats the majority of their careers.

Jaxon's touch and knowledge of the game will be better next year, he is 19 years old and has played high-level ball for only two years. What makes you think he won't improve?

This is the great thing about this team, there still is so much room for development due to age and experience. They were a .600 + team for the better half of the season.

In my opinion, at the time of the suspended season only the Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets and Thunder were teams in the West that we could not handle in a playoff match. Moreover, Zo, BI, Zion, Jaxon, Hart, and NAW will be significantly better next year after a full and healthy offseason of work. They are a problem for the NBA.
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CelticDog
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
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Moreover, Zo, BI, Zion, Jaxon, Hart, and NAW will be significantly better next year after a full and healthy offseason of work. They are a problem for the NBA.


they cant do much necessary work.
maybe favors can work on his 3 and zion can come up with a normal jumper.
maybe lonzo can learn ft.
maybe naw can work on his change of pace as he gets to the rim.
favors is clueless at ft line. no arc.

given all.that needs to happen, it would be a happy miracle. good thing is they cant go out dancing.

so maybe they can be serious about their craft.
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Tiger in Texas
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
Solid B-

Ingram is everything we could hope for and more, same goes for Zion. Everyone was getting on Lonzo during the season, but he finally settled down, now is a definite part of this team going forward. Hart and Melli are 2 role players that can still improve as well. JJ gives us that added offense, but of course he is only part of the short term solution. I was happy with drafting Jax, still feel that way, give him a couple of years and he will be replacing Favors. NAW looked promising in the pre-season, but things changed once the season started, will have to take a wait and see attitude over next season. That leaves Jrue- is it just me or should we solicit offers? Is he starting to show a chink in the armour? He still has excellent trade value, he would be the one player I would be willing to trade at this point.
But in closing, you just have to love the young nucleus of the team- the future is bright!


dagrippa
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
B plus.

Fun as hell to watch and they are gelling


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Ebbandflow
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
Honestly when Zion Williamson started playing they were a good team and they're very young. The trade the Lakers gave them is really good for the Pelicans future


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CelticDog
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Member since Apr 2015
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
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Jrue- is it just me or should we solicit offers? Is he starting to show a chink in the armour? He still has excellent trade value, he would be the one player I would be willing to trade at this point.


i know this is asking a lot but who exactly are you proposing getting back for him?

imho, the gsw warriors would be a good fit.
if they hit on lottery they probably want wiseman.

do you want wiggins back? jrue and a 2nd (pels have them) for wiggins.

anyhow before you go dumping one of the best defender 2/3, propose a deal.
did you notice that he had two of "those games" in the last two weeks, where he won games with mid 30s scoring and nice passing and defense?

i admit im a fan of jrue.
i love him.

so...what do you want back? which teams can deal with you TexGM?
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TeddyPadillac
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
CelticDog,

reading the majority of your posts is like:



VOR
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Member since Apr 2009
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
Without Jrue, there’s a big hole in the lineup.
He does a lot of things very well, regardless of the few posters who are critical of the guy.


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CelticDog
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
31460 posts

re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
not everyone is gifted with your nuanced intellect.
on my topics i write for the least amongst us.

7 or 8 years ago i wrote for my peers, educated smart people. a lot of regular guys bragged how they couldnt understand it all all.

be happy you are smart and wise. the combo is rare.



LouisianaJoseph
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621 posts

re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
MM?


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nicj4
Member since Jan 2020
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re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
BI : B+
Favors : B+
Zion : B+
Lonzo : A-
Jrue : B
Melli : A-
Reddick : A
NAW : C

Gentry : C


CelticDog
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
31460 posts

re: If the season was over, how would you grade the Pels?
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BI : B+
Favors : B+
Zion : B+
Lonzo : A-
Jrue : B
Melli : A-
Reddick : A
NAW : C

Gentry : C


easy grader except for jrue.
jrue won games. there were two games late in season that jrue won with scoring that melli and lonzo will never ever touch.

jrue season high 37.
lonzo career high 29.

no hayes?

i guess you grade based on expectations.


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