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Has anybody watched any YouTube videos on Robin Lopez?
Posted on 7/25/12 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/25/12 at 1:53 pm
Specifically this video from Valley of the Suns - he looks like the worst Center I've ever seen...
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I remember he impressed the hell out of me in that Lakers semis series a few years back (but then again I think Channing Frye was on fire too so take that for what it's worth).
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I remember he impressed the hell out of me in that Lakers semis series a few years back (but then again I think Channing Frye was on fire too so take that for what it's worth).
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 7/25/12 at 1:56 pm to MinnesotaTiger
Posted on 7/25/12 at 1:57 pm to MinnesotaTiger
yeah dont pick him up please.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 1:59 pm to slutiger5
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yeah dont pick him up please.
whats your plan at center?
Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:00 pm to MinnesotaTiger
yea he's not that good but keep in mind he's gonna look like the worst center ever if you look at a highlight video showing all of his bad plays and pointing out his flaws. don't base your opinion of him off of a youtube video. Wait until you can see what he does for us in games.
Besides, it's not like he's our Center of the future. And we're not giving up much/paying a lot for him so I dont see the problem. He may start for this year but he's not the long term solution unless he develops into a serviceable starting center. I see him being a backup center for us in a year or so.
Besides, it's not like he's our Center of the future. And we're not giving up much/paying a lot for him so I dont see the problem. He may start for this year but he's not the long term solution unless he develops into a serviceable starting center. I see him being a backup center for us in a year or so.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:01 pm to MrPappagiorgio
I really wanted him but these guys at Valley of the Suns seem like they know their shite and they hate him. I like that they were high on him after that Lakers series (I haven't really seen him since then) and say that he's regressed big time since then.
I'm willing to take a chance on him and defer to DellMonte's opinion on this, but I'm not as excited after seeing the Suns' blog opinions and video on him.
I'm willing to take a chance on him and defer to DellMonte's opinion on this, but I'm not as excited after seeing the Suns' blog opinions and video on him.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:02 pm to Hazelnut
Fair enough - I guess that's a healthier way of looking at it.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:06 pm to MinnesotaTiger
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he looks like the worst Center I've ever seen
You can make highlights or lowlights of any player. I think someone said they stumbled upon a 6 minute video of Hilton Armstrong highlights a few weeks ago.
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I remember he impressed the hell out of me in that Lakers semis series a few years back
A few Suns fans have posted about him on other boards. He certainly has his flaws but if Monty can get him to focus on what he's good at and maximize his talent he should be worth $5 million per.
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Suns fan here.
Robin Lopez has some ability, but he’s incredibly inconsistent. He was great in 2010, but then he suffered the back injury and has never gotten back to that level. He’s a good shot-blocker and a big body in the paint, but he can also move pretty well for a 7-footer. He’s a good FT shooter an can shot out to about 17 feet or so, although he didn’t shoot as well last year. He’s an effective P&R finisher and when he’s on he can be a beast on the offensive glass. He can even score in the post now and then.
However, like I said, he’s mind-numbingly inconsistent. He often fouls a lot, struggles to finish inside, and can be turn-over prone.
At this point he’s nothing more than a back-up. There is still some upside though if he can ever put it together on a consistent basis.
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Suns fan here.
Maybe you guys can salvage something of Lopez, about once or twice a year he has a game that makes you think he has potential but then he vanishes for several months. He has some of the worst hands in the league, even for a big. Not a good rebounder, frequently gets lost in defense but does show flashes. He is decent at protecting the rim though. A serviceable player but absolutely not someone you'd want to start. Probably should be about the 3rd guy off the bench. Supposedly wanted 7 mil a year, if you guys got him at that rate then I am terribly sorry. 3-4 mil on a 2 or 3 year contract is probably what he is worth.
As for Warrick... I truly apologize. He is possibly the worst player in the entire NBA. He is so bad and his contract is so dumb that I thought the Suns might have to pair a pick with him just to get rid of him, I am utterly shocked they are somehow getting one in return. Outside of dunking when there is no one in his way there is nothing Warrick does well. You guys can at least have fun laughing at him while, predictably, he fires fade aways from 8 feet out that dont hit the rim even though he was not defended. On defense his only contribution is stupid fouls, like gently tapping a guy as he dunks, thats about all he provides. Just comfort yourself by laughing at him, its the only way to deal with it.
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Many of the problems listed sound like issues Smith had and has improved upon, like giving up too many cheap fouls.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:17 pm to MinnesotaTiger
this dude has more offensive move than most centers in the nba today. the fact that he even attempts all those sky hooks is impressive. his angles on def and rebounding need work but thats no big concern. all he needs is some time in the weight room and big man training to be a really good center.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:25 pm to BayouFann
I posted that video yesterday. The scary thing is, that video was on the 2010/11 season, and he played worse last season. ~$4m for a backup center with potential is fine, but once you go north of $5m, I'm starting to wonder why we wouldn't just spend a few extra million on Hawes or Asik. Asik's deal (for either he or Hawes) especially would have been especially nice since it would have given us cap flexibility for 2 more seasons, then MAYBE put us in the tax or close to it a year before we have to worry about extending Davis/Anderson/possibly Gordon, depending on if he opts out of year 4 or not.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:34 pm to THRILLHO
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Asik's deal (for either he or Hawes) especially would have been especially nice since it would have given us cap flexibility for 2 more seasons
The Arenas rule requires the poaching team to count the average salary towards their cap, so Asik would have run $8 millionish per for the next 3 years, not $5/$5/$15
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:50 pm to TigerinATL
Ah, gotcha. So only the Bulls would pay 5/5/15? I wonder if teams could start colluding on those types of deals to fit the cap as they please. Like if two teams had each had RFA's and offered to do it for each other so as to give flexibility in the upcoming seasons, with each team fully intending to match their own RFAs. I guess it's unlikely since there's always a risk of one team bluffing and not actually matching.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:59 pm to THRILLHO
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So only the Bulls would pay 5/5/15?
Correct.
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I wonder if teams could start colluding on those types of deals
So you're saying something like the friendly GM offering $5/$5/$10 to keep someone else from offering $5/$5/$15? It would have to be the perfect situation, not only would the GMs need to trust each other, but they'd have to have cap space for their own RFA and the RFA they were fake bidding on, and they would have to have a legit need for the player in question because the player has to be willing to switch teams and sign the offer sheet.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:11 pm to TigerinATL
No. It's a far fetched situation, but I mean:
team A has an RFA. They know the market for their player and they know 3years/$25m will be enough to keep them.
team B is in the exact same situation.
So team A and B discuss offers that they will make on each others RFAs so as to free up cap space in years that they want, with each team having no actual intention of stealing the other's player.
team A has an RFA. They know the market for their player and they know 3years/$25m will be enough to keep them.
team B is in the exact same situation.
So team A and B discuss offers that they will make on each others RFAs so as to free up cap space in years that they want, with each team having no actual intention of stealing the other's player.
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