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re: Gordon and Monty screaming match....
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:02 pm to tehchampion140
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:02 pm to tehchampion140
quote:No you won't, don't lie to us
then I'll lead the trade Gordon group myself.
Your love for Gordon is deep and unconditional
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Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:03 pm to tehchampion140
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but it's not like it's a chronic issue
Normal injuries don't keep bothering you after two years
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It was one injury that seems to be finally cleared up.
Cleared up? He still can't play two nights in a row
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I tell you what, if he's still having his knee issues 2 years after the injury happened, then I'll lead the trade Gordon group myself.
Its pretty much been two years
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:04 pm to danman6336
I love the Hornets/Pelicans, not Eric Gordon. He would help the Hornets/Pelicans a great deal in their efforts to build a contender once he gets healthy. High risk, high reward.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:04 pm to Cap Crunch
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You act like this can be ignored
Exactly. He's awesome except for when he misses or plays way under his paycheck 75% of the season because he's hurt or working back into form.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:05 pm to tehchampion140
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I love the Hornets/Pelicans, not Eric Gordon. He would help the Hornets/Pelicans a great deal in their efforts to build a contender if he gets healthy. High risk, high reward.
FIFY
And I have pretty much given up on that happening at this point
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:05 pm to tehchampion140
My biggest faith in the Pelicans future is the boy with the brow. Ship Gordon's arse out of here.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:06 pm to tehchampion140
quote:The injury happened basically two whole seasons ago
He would help the Hornets/Pelicans a great deal in their efforts to build a contender once he gets healthy
TWO frickING SEASONS
How long are you seriously going to use the "he's hurt" or "he's rusty" excuses
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:09 pm to Cap Crunch
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Normal injuries don't keep bothering you after two years
If what we heard was true, then he wasn't treated properly for his injury the first time and that led to it getting worse before this year. He visited a specialist who was able to provide a better rehab plan for him and he hasn't had any knee issues yet.
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Cleared up? He still can't play two nights in a row
The team as well as Gordon have said that it's purely precautionary and part of the rehab program. His health is not what's keeping him out of those games right now.
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Its pretty much been two years
Last season started later than normal. He was hurt December of 2011 and played again December of 2012.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:10 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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My biggest faith in the Pelicans future is the boy with the brow.
No doubt about this.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:10 pm to tehchampion140
He also tried out for Team USA and got cut. Thug POS
Probably jealous of Davis making the squad without even playing a game in the NBA
Probably jealous of Davis making the squad without even playing a game in the NBA
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:12 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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He also tried out for Team USA and got cut. Thug POS
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Davis making the squad without even playing a game in the NBA
There's no doubt who the captain of the Pelicans Ship is.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:15 pm to tehchampion140
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If what we heard was true, then he wasn't treated properly for his injury the first time and that led to it getting worse before this year. He visited a specialist who was able to provide a better rehab plan for him and he hasn't had any knee issues yet.
Well that wrong treatment apparently didn't matter to him when he was trying out for the Olympic team
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The team as well as Gordon have said that it's purely precautionary and part of the rehab program. His health is not what's keeping him out of those games right now.
Is playing every game to prove to the team that he's worth it important right now? Because it is to me
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:18 pm to Cap Crunch
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Well that wrong treatment apparently didn't matter to him when he was trying out for the Olympic team
I definitely don't know enough to explain what happened to him, so I just go by what I read and infer. He could've been forcing himself to play through pain because he really wanted to get to play on the team. I can't say anything for sure.
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Is playing every game to prove to the team that he's worth it important right now? Because it is to me
I'm sure everyone would like to see him play every game, but the future of this team is more important than the present. If he has to miss a handful of games on a strict rehab program in order to preserve his health when we have a legit talented team, then so be it.
This post was edited on 4/7/13 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:24 pm to tehchampion140
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I'm sure everyone would like to see him play every game, but the future of this team is more important than the presen
Exactly
But that's a two sided argument
How do we know if he's worth it to the future of our team if we don't know what he can do in the present?
Posted on 4/7/13 at 5:27 pm to Cap Crunch
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How do we know if he's worth it to the future of our team if we don't know what he can do in the present?
Fair enough argument. That's the biggest issue with him being on the team right now: Is it worth it to keep him on the chance that he can start staying healthy and put up 20+ PPG on better percentages? I'm obviously of the mentality that it's worth taking the risk since we're many years away from title contenders anyway unless we hit it rich in the lottery ala OKC. It's understandable why others would feel differently. I just don't want to settle for a shitty deal where we get role players out of it due to Gordon's low trade value. Having a bunch of role players puts you in Houston's spot over the past few years: perennial 6-8 seed with no chance at a legit lottery pick and no chance at a title.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 6:09 pm to tehchampion140
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but it's not like it's a chronic issue or multiple injuries. It was one injury that seems to be finally cleared up.
i think his knee issues over over 2 straight years are pretty indicative of a chronic issue
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if he's still having his knee issues 2 years after the injury happened, then I'll lead the trade Gordon group myself.
he won't have any value by that point
Posted on 4/7/13 at 6:11 pm to Cap Crunch
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How do we know if he's worth it to the future of our team if we don't know what he can do in the present?
yeah we're going to get shitty eric gordon for another year (b/c we won't contend next year)...so we've already paid him 2 full max-level years...for what? a constantly injured guy who can't even play 2 games in a row and missed 1.5 of 2 seasons?
Posted on 4/7/13 at 6:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
The good news is that at that point, we'll already be halfway through his shitty contract
Posted on 4/7/13 at 6:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Exactly
he won't have any value by that point
It has to happen now, when we can still trick teams into thinking he isn't damaged goods. Another season and it will become obvious.
Trade with some borderline contending team that needs a solid 2 guard (Jazz, Celtics, Bulls, Grizzlies come to mind) and might be willing to give up some solid pieces for him
Some team desperate to win now might take a chance on him.
A GM with a big ego would think he could be the guy to make him not be a pouty bitch and actually live up to his potential, and boom, we have a solid rotation guy or two and maybe a decent late 1st pick.
A lot better than some mediocre SG who pouts all the time and is getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to be average
This post was edited on 4/7/13 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 4/7/13 at 6:47 pm to danman6336
That's all well and good but i don't think it'll happen in the offseason.
I'm thinking next trade deadline
I'm thinking next trade deadline
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