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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:17 pm to DJ3K
Thing thing about Zarren and the Sixers job here is.. if he’s a diehard Boston fan, then you should expect him not to take a job with a Divison Rival which is reasonable to believe. Not only are the Pelicans in the Western conference, but it’s a lucrative position as it will likely come with a lot of control and will allow him to build the team up from the ground up with the incoming assets for Davis. He may very well stay where he is but I have to believe that the Pelicans job is more appealing to him than the Sixers because of this nature. But I guess we’ll see.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:21 pm to NOFOX
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I mean the guy was only a GM for 3 years and his teams had: 53, 57, and 51 wins while going to the Finals 3 times winning it all once.
....Because you walked into a situation where the best player in basketball had a moment of moral conflict and giftwrapped himself to you.
I mean look at his executive record, there is nothing there that stands out to me as him being a particularity savvy or skilled executive:
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This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:25 pm to supe12sta12z
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Thing thing about Zarren and the Sixers job here is.. if he’s a diehard Boston fan, then you should expect him not to take a job with a Divison Rival which is reasonable to believe. Not only are the Pelicans in the Western conference, but it’s a lucrative position as it will likely come with a lot of control and will allow him to build the team up from the ground up with the incoming assets for Davis. He may very well stay where he is but I have to believe that the Pelicans job is more appealing to him than the Sixers because of this nature. But I guess we’ll see.
To play devils advocate, there is also a large risk involved in stepping out from being the heir apparent.
Namely, anything but strong success threatens your chance at your lifelong dream job.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:28 pm to Bronc
Guy is a Harvard Law grad that gave up a lucrative career to join the Celtics.
Lifelong Celtics fan.
Goes to every game and sits in stands with his dad.
Has moved up through the ranks.
I think it would take a LOT to pry him away.
Lifelong Celtics fan.
Goes to every game and sits in stands with his dad.
Has moved up through the ranks.
I think it would take a LOT to pry him away.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:37 pm to Fun Bunch
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Zarren, who specializes in salary cap administration and statistical analysis for team strategy and player evaluation, would be a phenomenal hire for a team that will be retooling without Davis and possibly even rebuilding should they choose — or have to — move a stellar point guard in Jrue Holiday.
another mickey loomis. Get Zarren the keys to the pels.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:39 pm to Fun Bunch
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Guy is a Harvard Law grad that gave up a lucrative career to join the Celtics.
Lifelong Celtics fan.
Goes to every game and sits in stands with his dad.
Has moved up through the ranks.
I think it would take a LOT to pry him away.
That is my feeling as well.
He's a name that has been around since the 76ers started their rebuild, and the only reason Hinkie got the job was because Zarren turned them down.
Gayle would probably need to come at Zarren with everything except a majority stake in the team to get him to leave his GM-in-waiting spot in Boston....Even then I'm not sure it would work
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:41 pm to Chad504boy
Where is that from?
But yeah part of the reason I want him. Dude is considered SHREWD as frick. Brilliant. Harvard Law grad. Cap wizard. Knows analytics.
People consider him one of the shrewdest, sharpest guys in that admin. We need someone like that over the Pels.
But yeah part of the reason I want him. Dude is considered SHREWD as frick. Brilliant. Harvard Law grad. Cap wizard. Knows analytics.
People consider him one of the shrewdest, sharpest guys in that admin. We need someone like that over the Pels.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:41 pm to Bronc
You said he was incredibly mediocre as a GM. His only years as GM, he was in the Finals. I get that you did not like his moves and give all credit to Lebron, but a lot of people around the league think highly of Griffin and he has refused offers since he parted with the Cavs. I listen to him and Joel most days, it is clear the guy is very bright.
I would prefer Zarren and several others, but Griffin is not some scrub over the hill guy.
I would prefer Zarren and several others, but Griffin is not some scrub over the hill guy.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:44 pm to NOFOX
Yeah. Griffin gets almost universal respect in league circles from what I've seen.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:48 pm to NOFOX
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You said he was incredibly mediocre as a GM. His only years as GM, he was in the Finals. I get that you did not like his moves and give all credit to Lebron, but a lot of people around the league think highly of Griffin and he has refused offers since he parted with the Cavs. I listen to him and Joel most days, it is clear the guy is very bright.
I would prefer Zarren and several others, but Griffin is not some scrub over the hill guy.
Feel free to list off what transactions he made that signal he is anything but a middle of the road GM that lucked into the best basketball player on the planet at the peak of his talent to go along with a guy he didnt draft coming into his own as one of the premiere point guards? I.E. explain to me with some specific examples, what direct actions he took during his tenure that separates him from his peers as an executive decision maker?
I'm challenging someone to make the case, because like i said, looking at his record I'm not convinced.
I mean lets take his coaching hires as a starting palce, something that will be incredibly important as first order of business for the Pels, does David Blatt and Tyronn Lue suggest to you he is a exceptional evaluator of coaching talent? I.E. Would you be willing to make the case to replace Gentry with either of them?
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:55 pm to Fun Bunch
Better be doing speed rounds
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:01 pm to Chad504boy
You clown, Mickey’s apathy is a huge reason why Demps lasted so long.
And he’s opted out on this whole process.
And he’s opted out on this whole process.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:01 pm to Bronc
Totally agree Zarren isn't coming here to report to Mickey Loomis. He'd have to report directly to the owner and be given full control of b ball ops + a dump truck full of cash to even begin to pry him out of Boston. Not sure that kind of offer is in the cards.
More likely a respected former GM who doesn't mind fitting in to the organization's existing hierarchy. Not sure that's the best route to go, but it seems the most likely.
What they could do maybe is reshuffle the organizational chart and kick Loomis up to CEO of the combined franchises and promote someone on the Saints side to GM, thereby given equal status to each GM, both of whom report to Loomis. That might help with the current perception of Pels being little brother to the Saints. Maybe.
More likely a respected former GM who doesn't mind fitting in to the organization's existing hierarchy. Not sure that's the best route to go, but it seems the most likely.
What they could do maybe is reshuffle the organizational chart and kick Loomis up to CEO of the combined franchises and promote someone on the Saints side to GM, thereby given equal status to each GM, both of whom report to Loomis. That might help with the current perception of Pels being little brother to the Saints. Maybe.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:05 pm to Fun Bunch
I want nobody associated with LeBron James being near this team. David Griffin might be a LeBron James ploy to get Anthony Davis to Los Angeles
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:11 pm to New City Champ
quote:Gayle is saying that the position will report directly to her.
Totally agree Zarren isn't coming here to report to Mickey Loomis. He'd have to report directly to the owner and be given full control of b ball ops + a dump truck full of cash to even begin to pry him out of Boston. Not sure that kind of offer is in the cards.
More likely a respected former GM who doesn't mind fitting in to the organization's existing hierarchy. Not sure that's the best route to go, but it seems the most likely.
What they could do maybe is reshuffle the organizational chart and kick Loomis up to CEO of the combined franchises and promote someone on the Saints side to GM, thereby given equal status to each GM, both of whom report to Loomis. That might help with the current perception of Pels being little brother to the Saints. Maybe.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:25 pm to DJ3K
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I want nobody associated with LeBron James being near this team. David Griffin might be a LeBron James ploy to get Anthony Davis to Los Angeles
Honestly, I would imagine David Griffin has a mixed view of Lebron.
For all my reservations about Griffin as the Pels potential GM, Lebron's micromanaging style and Gilbert's capitulation certainly affected his tenure.
For instance I am not sure how much I would fault Griffin for some of the signings people hang over him like the ridiculous contract for Tristan. As that was almost certainly a Lebron/Gilbert pressure situation.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 11:15 pm to Fun Bunch
The Fletcher Mackel KISS of Death.
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