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Defensive lowlights from Zion last night

Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17863 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:40 pm
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Here are six plays where Zion just plays really bad defense. On some of them, he appears confused. On others, slow. On others, lazy.

That's just what it looks like. I know Zion isn't lazy, so don't throw that back at me. Our defensive rating was 165 last night when Zion was on the floor. Zion's +/- was negative 16, the worst on the team, despite his 13 points in 15 minutes.

I don't say this to be negative. The gears are going to start turning for Zion, and he's going to start remembering his assignments, and he's going to get in shape and be great.

The "half-full" way to look at this glass is that we got poor play from 3 of our 5 starters, and we still almost won the game.
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
18945 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:41 pm to
looks like a completely different player from duke zion
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10405 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:41 pm to
To be fair they’d tweaked the defense and a lot of the implementation could have happened during his leave. Zion didn’t look slow on the offensive end.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115960 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:42 pm to
His abysmal defense in the NBA is really strange.

He was an elite defender in college. Not good. ELITE.

But so far it has been by far his weakest element. Yes, rookies generally struggle on Defense. But he has been really, really bad.

I wonder if its conditioning or if he just needs time mentally on it.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14909 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 1:46 pm to
I think you said it and don’t need to apologize for it, looks lazy. Completely different than what he was at Duke. It’s baffling
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 1:47 pm
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

To be fair they’d tweaked the defense and a lot of the implementation could have happened during his leave. Zion didn’t look slow on the offensive end.




Honestly, this has been the case with Zion all season. He has been a really bad defensive player and has just looked lost out there. This is the main reason why they can't run the small ball Zion at the 5 lineups right now. Zion is constantly lost on defense, has been below average as a defensive rebounder, and he hasn't shown he can be a consistent rim protector if he is going to be tasked with playing the 5 at times.

We do have to remember he hasn't even accumulated a half season worth of games, so there is so much more for him to learn. He is going to go through these defensive growing pains, but he is so talented that it is reasonable to expect him to come out of them as a pretty good defender.
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 2:23 pm to
Alot of guys come into the league and can get buckets day 1 but take 2-3 years to learn how to play NBA defense.
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 2:46 pm to
His lateral quickness is gone. I remember that highlight of him staying in front of a PG well past the 3 point line. He can't do that right now. Not even close.

He really needs to lose weight.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8322 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:43 pm to
It’s a completely different game than duke
Posted by DumpTruckerson
Member since Feb 2017
1479 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:06 pm to


People on here seem to downvote whoever mentions his weight but there’s no denying he was much thinner at duke. Honestly looks like he might be 20lbs less there which would play a big part in agility and conditioning.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

People on here seem to downvote whoever mentions his weight but there’s no denying he was much thinner at duke. Honestly looks like he might be 20lbs less there which would play a big part in agility and conditioning.



that picture compared to the ones from the game is insane. that's easily 10-20lbs of too much muscle IMHO
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 10:41 pm to
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that picture compared to the ones from the game is insane. that's easily 10-20lbs of too much muscle IMHO


Yeah. Muscle...
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:29 pm to
That is comically bad
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