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re: Dear admins, Can we get a sticky

Posted on 3/26/15 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 6:34 pm to
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GalacticInquisitor




He is Monty
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:40 pm to
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165-218 in 5 seasons. That's a .431 winning %. Game. Set. Match.




And you still have no authority or input over Pelicans personnel decisions.
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:19 pm to
I know. I just don't undertstand why you still defend the guy?
Posted by brmark70816
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:16 pm to
I don't understand how the team can make a decision on the coach, who has one year left on his contract, before they make a decision on the GM, who's contract runs out at the end of the season (team has an option for one more season). How would that work? I could understand if they hired a GM and then the new GM went and found somebody he really wanted. But why would you let Dell fire Williams now?

Posted by ShamelessPel
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/26/15 at 11:58 pm to
Why would they do vice versa again? Hire a GM and stick him with Monty? Dell needs to pick his own guy (I have a feeling we'd be happy with a Dell coaching hire) or fire them both and let the next GM bring in his coach.
Posted by Markie812
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:05 am to
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But why would you let Dell fire Williams now?


Demps doesn't have the authority to fire Monty. He has to go through Loomis and the guys Benson trusts (Benson isn't making the call either, trusts his people and doesn't know shite about the NBA). Supposedly there is some in the FO ready to fire Monty after the season and others that are more hesitant, the question is who is for getting rid of Monty.



This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 1:07 am
Posted by brmark70816
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:32 am to
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Why would they do vice versa again? Hire a GM and stick him with Monty? Dell needs to pick his own guy (I have a feeling we'd be happy with a Dell coaching hire) or fire them both and let the next GM bring in his coach.


The team has to make a decision on Demps first. If they pick up the one year option or give him an extension, then I'd look for the team to make a move at head coach. But as of now, Demps is kind of a lame duck. You can't have him fire Williams now and give a new coach a 3-5 year deal. That would hamstring a new GM, if they decide to move away from Demps. Plus, it doesn't make financial sense. If he fires Williams now, they would still owe Williams 2.75M for next season (which is actually pretty cheap as far as coaches go). Then they would have to sign a new coach and the new contract is going to be much more.

I'd be fine if they fired both or replaced the GM and ride with Williams for another season (till the contract runs out). That would give the new GM time to get a better feel and find the best fit for the team. Honestly, I think that is the way it goes down. Williams hasn't embarrassed the organization or anything. He's just not a very good game situation coach. Most young coaches aren't...
Posted by sma19
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:58 am to
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Williams hasn't embarrassed the organization or anything.


Losses to the streaking (losing) knicks, philly, magic weren't embarrassing?

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He's just not a very good game situation coach. Most young coaches aren't...


It's his 5th year as a head coach. I don't care how young you are, if you played the game at a professional level for a number of years and have coached at the professional level for a number of years, game management should not be an issue.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:02 am to
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Losses to the streaking (losing) knicks, philly, magic weren't embarrassing?


No, every team has bad losses. Take off your hateblinders and look around the league.

Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:48 am to
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No, every team has bad losses. 




Every Non-Playoff team has bad losses, and if they do have a bad loss they usally counter it with a 5+ win streak
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:50 am to
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Every Non-Playoff team has bad losses,


Every team has bad losses

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if they do have a bad loss they usally counter it with a 5+ win streak


Is this a verified fact or a statement that you made up to fit your narrative?
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:56 am to
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I continue to be right. You continue to be wrong. It's just the way of the world, slowpoke.




Is this a verfied fact or a statement that you made up to fit your narrative

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Every team has bad losses 




Than why are we in 10th place if everybody has bad losses and according to you we have a good coach.





Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:03 am to
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Is this a verfied fact or a statement that you made up to fit your narrative


Oh, look at you trying on daddy's big man boots.

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Than why are we in 10th place if everybody has bad losses


For starters, because we have played the vast majority of the season with less available talent than the teams ahead of us.

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according to you we have a good coach.


Your arse is going to get pretty gnarly if you keep shoving your fist in to pull out these statements. Do find any quote where I said Monty is a good head coach. You can't, though, because I have never said that. Nothing has proven that Monty, after taking a team riddled with injuries to the brink of the playoffs in one of the most loaded conferences in NBA history, is a bad coach, though.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8246 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:08 am to
Monty doesn't put the ball in AD's hands to close out games. That is reason enough for him to be fired. Also, his rotations suck. Agree that the injuries have severely limited him, but I have seen enough.
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:16 am to
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Every team has bad losses




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Yes every team has bad loses, however only 10 teams have a worse record than us against under .500 teams.

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For starters, because we have played the vast majority of the season with less available talent than the teams ahead of us. 



Durant, Tony Parker was out for a while, Rondo, Parsons, I think Tyson for a while, Leonard, Maybe Robin Lopez ( depending if you think he is good) Dwight Howard, Terrance Jones

We have Jrue out and Anderson out. I am not a fan of Anderson and think his injury actually helped us be more athletic on defense and more ball movement on offense. This team misses Jrue's defense and ball handling alot.

AD has been out yes, but we did beat the Clippers and Raptors without AD.


This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:17 am to
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his rotations suck. Agree that the injuries have severely limited him


The injuries have severely impacted his rotations.

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Monty doesn't put the ball in AD's hands to close out games. That is reason enough for him to be fired.


I'd say he puts it in Tyreke's hands too often. That said, AD was too quick to delegate early in the year. There have also been talks about how Monty is holding AD back a bit to keep his progression steady. I certainly can't argue with AD's growth.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:24 am to
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only 10 teams have a worse record than us against under .500 teams.


So, a third of the league. How many teams have a better record against above .500 teams, playoff teams, and/or Southwest Division teams?

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Durant was out for a while


And they are battling us for a playoff spot with Russell Westbrook.

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Tony Parker was out for a while


He has missed 15 games all year. What about Tim Duncan?

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Rondo


Mid-season acquisition

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Parsons


4th banana

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I think Tyson for a while


66 games played of 72

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We have Jrue out and Anderson out.


AD, Gordon, and Asik have all missed games, as well.

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AD has been out yes, but we did beat the Clippers and Raptors without AD


Well, shite, I blame Monty.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8246 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:33 am to
Also, would it kill Monty to get T'ed up once in a while when the team is dragging arse? Very frustrating.
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:39 am to
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So, a third of the league.




So my argument was to resolve your statement that " all teams have bad losses. "

And yes all teams have bad loses, but the Pelicans are with the bottom third in " bad losses".



This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:40 am
Posted by Smedium27
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:44 am to
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For starters, because we have played the vast majority of the season




Yes you are correct the season is not yet done and if our losing streak continues, who knows what are record against play off teams will be. As of now we are in 8th place in the West vs above .500 teams. YAY we are going to the playoffs!!!
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