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re: David Griffin says off-season more about tweaks than big moves
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:41 am to shel311
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:41 am to shel311
You literally said someone said JV and one pick.
That is literally what was not said.
Bro you think you are the main character in every thread homie relax
That is literally what was not said.
Bro you think you are the main character in every thread homie relax
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:44 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
You literally said someone said JV and one pick.
That is literally what was not said.
It's laughable that 2nds are where you'll try to draw the line when no one mentions 2nds that are made in bigger deals. That's you grasping for straws when you were already proven wrong thinking I was talking about you. It's ok for you to admit you were wrong and you now realize I wasn't talking about you.
So the 2nd quote thought what then? Answer that, go ahead...
quote:Not this one, that's all you.
Bro you think you are the main character in every thread homie relax
shite had exactly zero to do with you. You were told it had nothing to do with you. And yet you're still furiously arguing a point you took personally that had nothing to do with you. I'll give you $1000 if you can find a post or thread where I pulled off some "main character" shite worse than that. There's nothing you can do to find that thread, it doesn't exist.
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:48 am to 50_Tiger
To be fair we've been talking about trading for Turner for for years, someone probably said it at some point. None of that matters though, nobody is looking to move on from a center archetype that we need, so you're either going to have to overpay for a known quantity, or take a bet on an unknown.
It really sucks that Jaxson wasn't passable, because we don't even know if adding a backup level big to the mix solves the problem or if you do have to bite the bullet and turn JV into something more modern.
It really sucks that Jaxson wasn't passable, because we don't even know if adding a backup level big to the mix solves the problem or if you do have to bite the bullet and turn JV into something more modern.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:49 am to shel311
Actually, let me put this one to rest with 1 post.
Go ahead answer this, then we can both agree you're wrong.
I made a post stating posters think we can get Turner for JVal and 1 1st.
Now, answer this, tell me which 1 of these 3 posts you think are the LEAST likeliest I am talking about:
- JVal, a 1st and a couple of 2nds
- A guy saying in response to Jval/2 1sts "For Myles Turner? You're out of your damn mind
- Jval, 1 of Kira/Dyson and 2 1sts
Again, answer that...which is the LEAST likely that I'm referencing?
You won't answer, you're too proud to admit you were wrong right now.
Go ahead answer this, then we can both agree you're wrong.
I made a post stating posters think we can get Turner for JVal and 1 1st.
Now, answer this, tell me which 1 of these 3 posts you think are the LEAST likeliest I am talking about:
- JVal, a 1st and a couple of 2nds
- A guy saying in response to Jval/2 1sts "For Myles Turner? You're out of your damn mind
- Jval, 1 of Kira/Dyson and 2 1sts
Again, answer that...which is the LEAST likely that I'm referencing?
You won't answer, you're too proud to admit you were wrong right now.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:53 am to TigerinATL
quote:
To be fair we've been talking about trading for Turner for for years, someone probably said it at some point. None of that matters though, nobody is looking to move on from a center archetype that we need, so you're either going to have to overpay for a known quantity, or take a bet on an unknown.
It really sucks that Jaxson wasn't passable, because we don't even know if adding a backup level big to the mix solves the problem or if you do have to bite the bullet and turn JV into something more modern.
I think you kinda have to maximize this opportunity now because were sort of approaching a sort of creshendo with this group.
Which sucks because if we actually stuck to either growing talent over time instead of trying to be both competitive and a nursery per say we probably aren't in this position.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:54 am to TigerinATL
quote:It's just entirely illogical that my "Jval and 1st" post...
To be fair we've been talking about trading for Turner for for years, someone probably said it at some point.
He'd think I'm talking about his "Jval, 1 of Kira/Dyson and 2 1sts" and not the "Jval, 1 1st and 2 2nds"
Explain how that makes sense, please.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:55 am to shel311
quote:
- JVal, a 1st and a couple of 2nds
- A guy saying in response to Jval/2 1sts "For Myles Turner? You're out of your damn mind
- Jval, 1 of Kira/Dyson and 2 1sts
None of these options are what you posted that was said though.
Thx for settling this though <3
Posted on 4/19/23 at 11:57 am to 50_Tiger
Deflect!!!! That has nothing to do with whether I was talking about your post or not. Nothing at all, not even close, but nice try on the deflection
Answer it, try to explain why you think I was talking about your post, go ahead. Tell us which post is LEAST likely to be the one referenced...why can't you answer?
quote:
None of these options are what you posted that was said though.
Thx for settling this though <3
quote:
You won't answer, you're too proud to admit you were wrong right now.
Answer it, try to explain why you think I was talking about your post, go ahead. Tell us which post is LEAST likely to be the one referenced...why can't you answer?
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:01 pm to shel311
quote:
Answer it, try to explain why you think I was talking about your post, go ahead. Tell us which post is LEAST likely to be the one referenced...why can't you answer?
To be fair your MO is usually agrumentative with the person you point the post toward. Not saying its always a negative approach, you do have some decent insight on things from time to time.
I only came from a perspective of literal. What your post exactly says has not been said by anyone. When things are left to "interpretation" you cannot seriously be annoyed when someone calls out the short comings of the post by using what they said as a reference point (or the entire thread for that matter).
Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:08 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:But the post wasn't pointed towards you, THAT is the point.
To be fair your MO is usually agrumentative with the person you point the post toward
It was a reply to the poster "sunnydaze" when I had not replied to you or referenced you or your post/trade in any way before you replied to me stating that i was talking about your post.
It's obvious the other 2 posts in that thread or what I was referencing as your trade was 100% different than the lowball offer I was referencing.
quote:You're correct, but it's also semantics. I think saying someone thought we could get Turner for Jval and a 1st" is essentially the same as "Jval/1st/2 2nds" as 2nds are rarely discussed that much in depth in deals.
I only came from a perspective of literal. What your post exactly says has not been said by anyone.
I certainly think that someone quoting Jval/2 1sts and saying "you're out of your god damn mind" is absolutely stating what I said, just not word for word in quotes.
But whatever...
quote:Issue here is, i'm not offended. You were the one who got offended. As you stated you read the thread, your reply after reading the thread should have been that you realized the 2 posts that I was very obviously talking about and it was not yours but for some reason you chose to kept saying I was talking about your post.
When things are left to "interpretation" you cannot seriously be annoyed when someone calls out the short comings of the post
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:15 pm to shel311
I dont think anyone is offended here at all. I just pointed out that what you posted was wrong and we began this fairly circular argument
Anyways back to the actual thread itself.
I still think JV gets moved and we attempt to acquire Naz Reid. Then hope EJ and Matkovic can either by combination replace Hayes or one steps up.
Anyways back to the actual thread itself.
I still think JV gets moved and we attempt to acquire Naz Reid. Then hope EJ and Matkovic can either by combination replace Hayes or one steps up.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:05 pm to LivingstonLaw
quote:
Pretty obvious Griff. Is putting up smokescreens. Why would he tell anyone his ideas. Even he is not as stupid as some of you on this forum. Your only defense is calling it trolling.
This is a MM troll account.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:39 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
I'd point Griff to his own comments. He was strong in saying he was "glad" we didn't win 50 games or the play in because it would have disguised weaknesses on the roster that need to be addressed.
I'd add not to let our mid-season position disguise our weaknesses, especially the Pels inability to win when Zion goes down. If priority one is getting Z healthy, priority two should be build a team that can compete for 20+ games without him on the floor.
That 10 game skid really sunk the Pels season. If you can just go .500 over that stretch your 47-35 and a fourth or fifth seed.
We need to be aggressive in turning over the bottom of the roster--Temple, Hayes, Richardson maybe Naji--to add some true shooters and rim protection that can bolster our second unit/stay competitive when Zion or BI or both go down.
I'd add not to let our mid-season position disguise our weaknesses, especially the Pels inability to win when Zion goes down. If priority one is getting Z healthy, priority two should be build a team that can compete for 20+ games without him on the floor.
That 10 game skid really sunk the Pels season. If you can just go .500 over that stretch your 47-35 and a fourth or fifth seed.
We need to be aggressive in turning over the bottom of the roster--Temple, Hayes, Richardson maybe Naji--to add some true shooters and rim protection that can bolster our second unit/stay competitive when Zion or BI or both go down.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:50 pm to New City Champ
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If priority one is getting Z healthy, priority two should be build a team that can compete for 20+ games without him on the floor.
no
no
still no
you don't build a team to prepare for injuries.
If Zion isn't playing in the playoffs, we aren't winning a title, end of story.
You build your team to win in the playoffs, not to sustain a decent level of winning in the regular season when 2 stars aren't playing.
No team can withstand playing as many games as we did without their two best players, and then as many as we did without the best player. We still finished above .500
I've shown the stats for missed games to the 2 best players this year. We were by far and away the team with the most missed games, and it was easy to tell which teams were not missing star players to injury, b/c they are hosting playoff games.
You think the Kings make the playoffs if Sabonis misses 50 games and Fox misses 30? They'd have been lucky to win 30 games if that happened.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:50 pm to New City Champ
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need to be aggressive in turning over the bottom of the roster--Temple, Hayes, Richardson maybe Naji--to add some true shooters and rim protection that can bolster our second unit/stay competitive when Zion or BI or both go down.
let hayes walk.
let temple retire.
i kinda like naji but of course he gets dealt if you can get a rim defender.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The biggest structural issues are:
1. Lack of a modern center, which isn't going to be fixable most likely.
2. Inability to run a real offense with BI/Zion/CJ. Now, they should have enough juice to make it work, but we'll never have an offense based on movement with those 3.
A leaky defense and an inability to run a competent offense are 2 glaring holes. It's also not an easy fix.
CJ-BI-Trey-Z-JV - get owned on D in playoffs
CJ-BI-Herb-Z-JV - offense compressed, d still suspect
Replace JV with Larry and the spacing is still shite, defense gets better, but rebounding plummets. We have to hope that a healthy Larry and Zion can get boards.
What I'd like to see to open and close games plus the players that would make up a playoff rotation:
Z-BI-Herb-Trey-CENTER NOT JV (maybe WCJ?)
Bench: CJ-Jose-Dyson(maybe not next year)-Larry
This post was edited on 4/19/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
you don't build a team to prepare for injuries.
You don’t build depth?
If there was a competent backup 4, the player type of what Hayes should be, this team without Zion wins 4-6 more games than they did for the season.
Lack of shooting and rim protection.
Those are the roster needs. Not a “real” point guard like some say.
Build that depth, you’re playing in May at least.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:30 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
I would normally agree if our star players were proven to be a relatively healthy bunch. Zion averages less than 29 games a year and we shot ourselves in the foot banking on his health last season and when he got injured we had a massive hole at the position that got exploited pretty badly. We definitely can not go into the season with no quality power forward behind him.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:30 pm to NOFOX
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(maybe WCJ?)
That's the kind of under the radar target they need to be looking at. I can see Orlando valuing assets over keeping him with where they are in the rebuild. Would JV and #14 be enough? Seems like it should be an easy sell to fans as a win if someone worthwhile is there at 14.
Although I am not liking the low number of games played. 62 games is a career high 2 years ago and he only played 57 this season.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:40 pm to TigerinATL
Unless they land Wemby, they aren't trading Carter Jr. They don't lack draft assets. They have plenty along with a lot of young talent. Carter Jr is on a great contract, is young, and can play next to Banchero. I don't see any reason for them to feel like they need to move him. A mid round pick isn't enticing.
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