re: check in if you hate the trade

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its not like you have to keep those draftees forever and ever.

continually selling picks for vet signings will get a non glamor team in trouble- see Phoenix or Hornets.

theyve got their core. its about fit and filling in the gaps now.

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I get it, and that's definitely one way to fill in around your core. But there's also teams out there like San Antonio that finds retreads, d-leaguers, and guys that have been cut to fill in around their core guys.

Trying to find lightning in a bottle continuously through the draft can get you in trouble fast.

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But there's also teams out there like San Antonio that finds retreads, d-leaguers, and guys that have been cut to fill in around their core guys. 

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Never said they can only add on via draft. Dell has been great a finding lightly regarded players so far and I expect that to continue.

As for the Spurs, Green, Diaw, Mills, and Neal are the only rotation players that weren't drafted by the team or had their rights acquired on draft night (Leonard for Hill who was a pick of theirs too). Ignoring their big 3, that still leaves Leonard, Splitter, Bonner, Joseph, De Colo plus Blair who fell out of favor but isnt awful.

Seriously, when was the last time the Spurs traded a 1st, future or otherwise leaving themselves without a pick?

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Trying to find lightning in a bottle continuously through the draft can get you in trouble fast

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Anyone thay expects lightning in a bottle from where the Pels should be picking the next several years is just unreasonable. I do expect them to find rotation guys that fit to go along with the spare parts Dell has a way of finding.

Its about hedging bets with the picks and smart signings as the cap space shrinks around the core

Where did you think we were picking next year, just wondering? Also, at what pick do you consider us getting better value with the trade we made?

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that still leaves Leonard, Splitter, Bonner, Joseph, De Colo plus Blair who fell out of favor but isnt awful.

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Bonner was brought into the league by Toronto.

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Seriously, when was the last time the Spurs traded a 1st, future or otherwise leaving themselves without a pick?

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Stephen Jackson for a first in 2012 I believe. And 2009 they were also without a draft pick.

Since 2007 the only draft pick to make a major impact on the Spurs are Splitter, Leonard, and you can throw Hill in there as well. And all this goes back to prove my point that the draft is a crapshoot and you use it as one of the tools to help build your roster, but not the only one and not even necessarily the most important one.

There may be a reason as to why they're calling you that.

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major impact

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but thats the point. once your core is set you are limited in finding ways to get useful players. You aren't finding impact players outside of the top 5 most years unless you get lucky. You can find rotation guys and perhaps moveable assets (e.g.Tobias Harris was the pick the team gave up for Bayless)

Limiting those options on a consistent basis, as this franchise has done over the years, is short sighted IMO.

Its not like finding a Green or Neal to come in off the street and have a major impact is less of a crapshoot than the draft.

Again Im not against moving picks or the Jrue trade, and im not saying the draft is the only way to find help. Just concerned that the FO doesnt value 1sts as much as they should.

This is 100% a great trade for the pelicans and to be honest neither team got ripped off. A pg in this league is everything and a few years from now holiday will be the best in the league and if not he will be a top 3. This kid is young enough to be in this years draft and anyone who is on this thread saying this is a bad trade really does not know anything about basketball. For one ya we gave up our 2014 draft pick but you don't realize this stacked class of the can't miss players are in the top 5 which we are protected on in case we decide to tank. We are not missing out on anything not to mention we don't need the Harrison twins who would be the 6th or 7th pick in all likelihood. Having watched every game last year I know that the pelicans were in almost every game and barely lost to most even going up big on good teams. If you say that the stats between Vasquez and holiday make them the same player one more time then you don't ever deserve any respect on basketball topics ever again. Holiday is head and shoulders better than Vasquez purely because of his speed and all around athleticism... It's not even close. Great trade by demps and this is robbery. Once again if you think this trade sucks then you are a moron no other way to put it. We are serious playoff contenders and we really don't even need a new small forward all that much bc we have so many scorers surrounding aminu who is a great defensive player. This team has serious potential now just wait and see.

I just read this whole thread just to figure out.....



















There's a whole lotta dumb in here...

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How'd Dallas get Tyson Chandler?How'd New York get Tyson Chandler? Even the Nets found a way to add 2 high priced players. I read their payroll with tax will be $170 million

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Well if Tom's willing to pay the tax penalties like those teams, then they can hand out picks like roofies in a frat house for all I care.

I read somewhere that if BK were the only tax paying team, they would pay each team in the league about $3million

I like the Jrue move. I think it was a no brainer. I dont like the history the franchise has of giving up picks going back to the 08 draft. Thats all Im trying to say.

Again, I am all for the Jrue move and the price it took to get him