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re: Aug 6th BI Deadline
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:If possible, this is the one.
Kessler/Collins is another option.
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The working theory is that Ainge hasn't been able to sell the owner on a tank, and the owner wants to win games.
Zach Lowe talked about this on a pod recently, IIRC
He 100% said the Jazz are buyers not sellers. I think he said Ainge used the word "big game hunting" in exit interviews.
If true, that would explain Utah potentially being interested in BI.
Let's hope it's true.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Without a stat that you know does not exist...seems a bit self fulfilling.
I'd like one person to show me any type of stat that backs up this assanine comment everyone likes to say.
That being said, videos with BI doing this over and over and over were posted many times during the season. You post here a lot, hard to believe you never once saw any of those videos?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:14 pm to Pels_Yaz
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You mean the same analysts/non biased media folks who feel BI should be traded and our center situation is an utter mess. I find it interesting when we pick and choose to listen to these non biased media folks.
One of those has tangible evidence, the reputation part of my statement you didnt address, and the other is opinion and speculation based on roster/unproven players.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:16 pm to shel311
So entering year what - 6 - of the rebuild we have a team without a single nba caliber center or low post player on the roster.
Griffin continues to push all the buttons and we should all be thankful for his service.
Griffin continues to push all the buttons and we should all be thankful for his service.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:19 pm to shel311
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shel311
Do you think there's any chance ingram changes his play and takes more 3s? I really only think it's possible because we have a truly legit pg on the team for the first time in a looooong time.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:20 pm to ned nederlander
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we have a team without a single nba caliber center
That's false. Starting quality? No, but we have two players that have played serious nba minutes.
quote:
or low post player on the roster.
Bro what Zion kills mother frickers in the low post.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:21 pm to whatiknowsofar
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One of those has tangible evidence
By tangible evidence you’re only talking about the trades Ainge has made? How is their tangible evidence on Ainge’s reputation. Tangible evidence is defined by physical evidence or documentation. Is there physical evidence or documentation of Ainge’s reputation???
They’re both opinion and speculation.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:22 pm to Pels_Yaz
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tangible evidence you’re only talking about the trades Ainge has made? How is their tangible evidence on Ainge’s reputation. Tangible evidence is defined by physical evidence or documentation
You only have to look as far back as to what Ainge wants for Kessler.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:22 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
You only have to look as far back as to what Ainge wants for Kessler.
Rumors are not tangible evidence.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:30 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Rumors are not tangible evidence.
He fleeced minny on the gobert trade.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:42 pm to whatiknowsofar
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He fleeced minny on the gobert trade.
If you want to rule out a trade with the Jazz based on the Gobert trade and how he’s perceived amongst NBA analysts- I guess thats your take.
I would say not all situations are alike and it makes a lot of sense for both gms to work out a trade. And I wouldn’t just rule it out.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:53 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
And I wouldn’t just rule it out.
I didn't rule it out, I just said i highly doubt it. You know how stubborn David Griffin is.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 5:01 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I bet ainge is asking for ingram and a 1st for ANYTHING we would want from them. Kessler/Collins/etc.
I think Ainge would do Ingram for Collins straight up, which is not good value for BI, but it's better than letting him walk for free.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:06 pm to Epic Cajun
We would be a worse team for that trade
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:13 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Yeah, Kessler and Collins or Collins and 2 1st would be the only trades I would do.
If neither of those are available go into the season as is with no extension, someone will overachieve and throw assets at us for BI
If neither of those are available go into the season as is with no extension, someone will overachieve and throw assets at us for BI
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:29 pm to Dantheman504
BI was a #2 on a really good team last year. When Zion was fit and healthy, we were a top 6 team in the league. Facts.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:23 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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We would be a worse team for that trade
We keep saying this but I’m not really sure. BI has really good skills but they’re also redundant skills on this team with Murray now in the fold. Meanwhile you’re replacing that with bigs you desperately need.
Plus say you’re right and we keep BI- then he walks for nothing; now we have nothing to show for BI. You can’t just bet on everything for next season.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:24 pm to Soggymoss
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If neither of those are available go into the season as is with no extension, someone will overachieve and throw assets at us for BI
You think someone will throw us assets for 3 months of BI??
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:28 pm to Pels_Yaz
Only to take on a contract(s) they're trying to dump. 
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