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re: Anthony Davis will not extend his contract and has requested to be traded

Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:44 pm to
F**k him
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43726 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:01 am to
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I have no ill feelings of AD.


I do. I hate this superteam shite and the players involved.

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I would just say this is on you, Pelicans.

We as fans knew Demps was given entirely to long as the GM. This man was given 8 years. Unreal.

Then Gentry. We all knew that was a poor hire from the start. He has done nothing of note with his time here. The man even got an extension.


Hard to argue with any of that. Blow it all up and start fresh. New GM, new coach, new everything.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:41 am to
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I have a feeling letting Cousins go and losing Rondo played a big part in Davis wanting out.


I don't even follow the Pelicans and I could see it was this from a mile away.

Pelicans are one of the most poorly managed teams in sports.

Just think for a second, all those great players that have walked through those revolving doors at the arena.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 7:43 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:11 am to
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My memory of this is pretty fuzzy but I'm pretty sure Mora resigned because they wouldn't fire him and he knew if he didn't resign he'd be here another year. He was pretty much, this is a bad situation and I'm done. You won't end it so I will.


Which is why I'll always have respect for Jim Mora. He was an a-hole but he was a man of integrity and he was the first truly successful head coach the Saints had.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18977 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:36 am to
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I don't even follow the Pelicans and I could see it was this from a mile away.

Pelicans are one of the most poorly managed teams in sports.


You are showing your ignorance. Boogie got a sandy vag when we offered him a 2 year 40 million dollar deal. He signed for the MLE with Golden State as a frick you to the Pels and the rest of the teams that did not offer him a contract. We offered Rondo the full amount we could and he took more money to go play with LeBron in LA. The Pelicans made the right plays with both of them.

The move that fricked the Pelicans was Davis signing with Rich Paul.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:05 am to
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No big stars want to live or play in New Orleans.


In general, I agree with you but that doesn't mean you can't build a good team or acquire Superstars. You just have to find the right type of person that appreciates a city like New Orleans. It's going to be the eccentric types like Alvin Kamara, Chris 'Birdman' Anderson, Kyle Turley, etc.

The flashy types and basic bitches are going to want places like Miami and Los Angeles or big metropolises with vast stretches of suburban wasteland like Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Etc.

A lot of these guys grow up in urban decay, so to them 'making it' has always looked like the suburbs that surrounded their hometown shithole. Problem is, the whole of New Orleans is urban but without the big city feel. That creates a unique environment that requires a unique person to recognize its value.

I think the Pelicans, going forward, should look at more players from the Euro ranks. New Orleans has always been more popular with Europeans than it has with Americans anyway
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 9:06 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:09 am to
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AD telling the team he wanted out is fine. AD's representative directly telling Woj is not fine. They didn't even hide behind sources, this was a pretty brazen power play designed to manipulate the potential trade market in favor of the Lakers and Rich Paul's main client, LeBron.


Well considering their newly-acquired football team just got gifted a Superbowl appearance in the worst no call in history and the League's response was basically, "who cares, what you going to do about it?", I can understand their bravado. They probably think they're untouchable right now and they're probably right. #2 TV market is the economic version of having a 12 inch penis.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13249 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:15 am to
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In general, I agree with you but that doesn't mean you can't build a good team or acquire Superstars. You just have to find the right type of person that appreciates a city like New Orleans. It's going to be the eccentric types like Alvin Kamara, Chris 'Birdman' Anderson, Kyle Turley, etc.

The flashy types and basic bitches are going to want places like Miami and Los Angeles or big metropolises with vast stretches of suburban wasteland like Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Etc.

A lot of these guys grow up in urban decay, so to them 'making it' has always looked like the suburbs that surrounded their hometown shithole. Problem is, the whole of New Orleans is urban but without the big city feel. That creates a unique environment that requires a unique person to recognize its value.

I think the Pelicans, going forward, should look at more players from the Euro ranks. New Orleans has always been more popular with Europeans than it has with Americans anyway



Very solid post. No NBA star that cares about Instagram hoes and partying is coming to NOLA. We may be a big party city, but we aren't a club city like Miami, LA, and NYC. If you find the type of players with the personality of the core young Saints stars right now though (AK41, Michael Thomas, Ingram though he's a little older now, Lutz, etc) they fit the city perfectly.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:16 am to
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Warriors will not lose until the super team gets broken up. Literally this entire league is a waste of time to even watch until that happens. Now is a good time to get rid of everybody and rebuild with young assets for when the league is ripe for take over.


This is happening all over sports right now and it's super frustrating to be a sports fan.

It's why I'm really focusing on college baseball and college basketball for the moment. There is still parity in those sports at that level. College football has been ruined by Alabama, NBA has been ruined by Golden State and LeBron, NFL has been ruined by the Patriots and Goodell.

Sports is no fun to watch when you already know who the winners are going to be in the end.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 9:26 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:23 am to
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If you find the type of players with the personality of the core young Saints stars right now though (AK41, Michael Thomas, Ingram though he's a little older now, Lutz, etc) they fit the city perfectly.


Not to derail this thread into a Saints thread because I still think the point is relevant because the Pelicans and the Saints share the same hometown, I think this is what Sean Payton is referring to when he talks about getting 'good character guys' in the locker room. I think that's as much about getting what that comment looks like on its face, i.e. actual good guys, as it is about getting the type of guys that want to play in and for a city like New Orleans.

He even references the difficulty in getting staff and players to come to a city like New Orleans in one of his interviews. I believe it was the Baldinger interview when he was talking about hiring a staff when he first got here.

A lot of fans in sports focus on how good their team is and what kind of money they have to spend when it comes to acquiring free agents but I think the hometowns of their respective cities plays just as big a part in attracting free agents as does the success of the team and the money. I think it's an underrated consideration, at least in the minds of fans.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 9:26 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:30 am to
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The chance of your small market team winning a championship is like winning the lottery.


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The only way is to build a deep roster of really good players and no superstars like the Spurs did (Unless you count Duncan) and have a good coach committed to the organization. Then continue to make smart, key FA acquisitions and hit on good players in the draft


I don't even follow NBA and I was always in awe of the makeup of the Spurs and the way that team was put together and how they played. It was pure traditional basketball and it was awesome to watch.

I've never understood, with as much trouble as the Pelicans have had trying to build a super star team by emulating teams like the Lakers, why they don't try to copy the formula that the Spurs used.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36914 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:33 am to
AD is such an arse. Dude hijacked this team with his Lakers trade request. I hope he gets traded to Milwaukee
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:38 am to
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The same guys did criticize the Pelicans for having Loomis as POBO, but said that anyone saying the team is gonna move is incredibly overreactionary.


Sometimes I wonder if the only reason anybody ever comes to the defense of the Saints or the Pelicans is because they like coming here the party. GNO is like the 46th largest television market. We're really borderline for having any professional franchises all much less two of them out of the three major Pro leagues.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:46 am to
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I would just say this is on you, Pelicans.

We as fans knew Demps was given entirely to long as the GM. This man was given 8 years. Unreal.

Then Gentry. We all knew that was a poor hire from the start. He has done nothing of note with his time here. The man even got an extension.


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Hard to argue with any of that. Blow it all up and start fresh. New GM, new coach, new everything


If they did that I would become a Pelicans fan again which I haven't been since CP3 left. This era has just felt Johnny Jones-esque.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:49 am to
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You are showing your ignorance


For sure. I haven't followed the Pelicans in years. Keep in mind that my comments are from a casual observer at a distance.

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He signed for the MLE with Golden State as a frick you to the Pels and the rest of the teams that did not offer him a contract. We offered Rondo the full amount we could and he took more money to go play with LeBron in LA. The Pelicans made the right plays with both of them.


School me then, please. I want to be prepared to jump on the bandwagon if they decide to clean house and start fresh.

Why can't the Pelicans keep their star players and build a competitive team?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18977 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:15 am to
I literally schooled you in the post. They made good offers to both of them and they bailed. Boogie because his feelings were hurt and Rondo for an extra million than we could offer.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:51 pm to
God, you people are so arrogant. I capitulated you prick. I was actually being amenable for once.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:34 pm to
If Magic gave Lonzo, Ingram, Zubac and the cure would that be worth it?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127690 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:11 am to
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If Magic gave Lonzo, Ingram, Zubac and the cure would that be worth it?



No because I don't have AIDS.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
174825 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 6:42 am to
Pels took away AD’s #

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