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After last night’s win, is it time to look into the mirror?
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:32 pm
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Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:35 pm to Baron
Listen. Do I think Borrego did a great job last night? Yea
But it is not lost on me that when people were saying we need to blow it up and some of us said just wait until we get at least some of our team back, we got told that it wasn’t because of the injuries and our stars should carry us
And now it’s apparently pure coincidence that when our all defense (should be) glue guy comes back we suddenly look a lot better
Like yea I get it it sucks to blame injuries but sometimes that’s really all it is
But it is not lost on me that when people were saying we need to blow it up and some of us said just wait until we get at least some of our team back, we got told that it wasn’t because of the injuries and our stars should carry us
And now it’s apparently pure coincidence that when our all defense (should be) glue guy comes back we suddenly look a lot better
Like yea I get it it sucks to blame injuries but sometimes that’s really all it is
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:40 am to Baron
Yes. Borrego pulled a Coach O and unleashed the hidden playbook and installed a whole new offensive and defensive scheme overnight. gtfo
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:57 am to Baron
The only Borrego should be credited with and rightfully so is the ATO plays ran and the timing of timeouts called, both of which were beautiful.
Willie definitely was involved in game plan though, he was there for shootaround and practice
Willie definitely was involved in game plan though, he was there for shootaround and practice
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:14 am to Terrific Tales
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Listen. Do I think Borrego did a great job last night? Yea But it is not lost on me that when people were saying we need to blow it up and some of us said just wait until we get at least some of our team back, we got told that it wasn’t because of the injuries and our stars should carry us And now it’s apparently pure coincidence that when our all defense (should be) glue guy comes back we suddenly look a lot better Like yea I get it it sucks to blame injuries but sometimes that’s really all it is
If neither of your stars try on defense and one has never started a season in shape, what exactly do you want fans to think?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:19 am to Soggymoss
He also called sets in game and called sets that worked multiple times. People think coaches don't do shite during the games for some damn reason.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:21 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:40 am to carrguitar
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Yes. Borrego pulled a Coach O and unleashed the hidden playbook and installed a whole new offensive and defensive scheme overnight. gtfo
I forget that people can’t pickup on sarcasm on this site. It was one game, I’m clearly joking about all the injuries
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:01 am to Baron
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Baron
Fair.
Hard to detect the sarcasm from the true acoustics on here sometimes, the lines are so blurred...
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:12 am to Baron
Your post history shows you’re a serious as a heart attack. Don’t back track now..
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:17 am to Soggymoss
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The only Borrego should be credited with and rightfully so is the ATO plays ran and the timing of timeouts called, both of which were beautiful. Willie definitely was involved in game plan though, he was there for shootaround and practice
On top of that, he called some timely offensive sets when things were on the verge of getting sloppy.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:30 am to MrJimBeam
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Your post history shows you’re a serious as a heart attack. Don’t back track now.
40% of the time spent on here I’m being serious, the other 80% I’m being sarcastic, and the last 20% I’m asking for math help
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:45 am to Baron
quote:Those don't even add up to 100%, I question the accuracy of these statistics!!!
40% of the time spent on here I’m being serious, the other 80% I’m being sarcastic, and the last 20% I’m asking for math help
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:18 pm to supe12sta12z
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He also called sets in game and called sets that worked multiple times. People think coaches don't do shite during the games for some damn reason
We ran the same plays and sets that we have all year. We didn’t do anything different scheme wise than we did any other game. The big difference was Herb and Naji had a huge effect on the game, and BI/Zion actually played like they gave a shite if we win.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:30 pm to saintslsupels
The timing of the sets, the personnel you're exploiting when calling these sets, and calling these sets when you notice your team is starting to struggle matters. There's a lot that goes into calling a good game. Then you also add the timing of the timeout and the plays that are called during ATOs, it makes a hell of a difference in controlling the momentum and keeping your players focused.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:47 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:This is all true, but let's be honest, how many specific instances can you call out of these things he did vs specific instances of where Willie did not do these things?
The timing of the sets, the personnel you're exploiting when calling these sets, and calling these sets when you notice your team is starting to struggle matters. There's a lot that goes into calling a good game. Then you also add the timing of the timeout and the plays that are called during ATOs, it makes a hell of a difference in controlling the momentum and keeping your players focused.
Effort was the main difference. It seems the players do like Willie, so I'd have no reason to believe they brought the effort because Willie was out or because Borrego was in, so the most likely thing is that it was just a coincidence IMO.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:59 pm to shel311
Of course effort is part of the equation. But when you look at games like Denver and Houston where Willie waits for the lead to completely dwindle and losing all momentum before calling timeouts. It deflating and he does it in multiple occasions. And then allowing BI and Z to go long stretches of playing iso ball and ball stopping instead of trusting the offense, I put that on in game coaching.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 1:16 pm to supe12sta12z
It was a good idea for James Borrego to coach them to be up by 30 the entire game so he didn’t have to use timeouts to stop runs. Why didn’t Willie think of that?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 1:21 pm to saintslsupels
Yea because you'll just end up with Losses like the Denver game and the Atlanta game.
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