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AD Trade Scenario Thread - Put yours in here
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:11 pm
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:33 pm to LosLobos111
LINK
Pels get:
Tatum
Smart
Myles Turner
2020/2021 Memphis 1st
2019 LAC 1st
Pacers get:
Jaylen Brown
2019 Kings 1st
Celtics get:
AD
Not sure if the Pacers go for it, but it gives them a promising young wing to pair with Dipo and solves the problem of not being feasibile to have both Turner and Sabonis on big money deals.
The Pels end up with Tatum, Smart, and an ideal big to pair with Zion, along with draft capital.
Pels get:
Tatum
Smart
Myles Turner
2020/2021 Memphis 1st
2019 LAC 1st
Pacers get:
Jaylen Brown
2019 Kings 1st
Celtics get:
AD
Not sure if the Pacers go for it, but it gives them a promising young wing to pair with Dipo and solves the problem of not being feasibile to have both Turner and Sabonis on big money deals.
The Pels end up with Tatum, Smart, and an ideal big to pair with Zion, along with draft capital.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:42 pm to LesGeaux45
Pels get:
Bradley Beal
Wizards get:
#3 pick and NO 2nd round
And Knicks 2nd round this year and next year
Knicks get:
AD
Bradley Beal
Wizards get:
#3 pick and NO 2nd round
And Knicks 2nd round this year and next year
Knicks get:
AD
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:43 pm to AlbinoGator
quote:
Pels get:
Bradley Beal
Wizards get:
#3 pick and NO 2nd round
And Knicks 2nd round this year and next year
Knicks get:
AD
Take this to the Elite board.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:46 pm to LesGeaux45
I see Turner as a target frequently and don’t get it. Is it that Sabonis makes people think Turner is expendable? Because a modern big is probably only slightly less valuable than a modern wing.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:05 pm to TigerinATL
Tim Bontemps wrote an article for ESPN in April talking about how Sabonis and Turner are both universally agreed to be centers in the current NBA and that Thaddeus Young pairs better with each than they do with each other. So the belief is that Indy has to choose one or the other instead of giving out big money to both
And it’s gotten legs from there, especially since Sabonis will be a RFA next summer and Turner & the Pacers agreed to a $70 mil extension last fall
And it’s gotten legs from there, especially since Sabonis will be a RFA next summer and Turner & the Pacers agreed to a $70 mil extension last fall
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:06 pm to LosLobos111
You can call me Fletcher
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:45 pm to LosLobos111
With reports that Miami wanted to trade for Wall pre-injury and now want to get in the hunt for Conley, I would really like it if we could get Richardson, so out of character for me, but here is a crazy 4 way that I need to work out the specifics in terms of the picks (exchanges, swaps) and check the salaries, but the main components would be:
NOP - Tatum, Brown, Richardson, Dragic, Olynyk
MEM - Smart, Solo, Moore
MIA - Conley, Williams
BOS - AD
Picks Potentially Involved - 2019 SAC (#14), 2019 MIA (#13), 2019 LAC (#20), 2019 BOS (#22), 2020 MEM
Majority of the picks would go to the Pels with something going to Memphis.
MIA - get their target in Conley and get $10M in cap cushion at the cost of Richardson and #13 in a weak draft (could be a swap instead of giving up the pick)
MEM - get grit and grind Smart to pair with Ja, no bad salary as only take on Moore/Solo expirings, get a pick also
BOS - get AD
NOP - get players that fit with Jrue and Zion, get picks, can still trade off one of the wings
NOP - Tatum, Brown, Richardson, Dragic, Olynyk
MEM - Smart, Solo, Moore
MIA - Conley, Williams
BOS - AD
Picks Potentially Involved - 2019 SAC (#14), 2019 MIA (#13), 2019 LAC (#20), 2019 BOS (#22), 2020 MEM
Majority of the picks would go to the Pels with something going to Memphis.
MIA - get their target in Conley and get $10M in cap cushion at the cost of Richardson and #13 in a weak draft (could be a swap instead of giving up the pick)
MEM - get grit and grind Smart to pair with Ja, no bad salary as only take on Moore/Solo expirings, get a pick also
BOS - get AD
NOP - get players that fit with Jrue and Zion, get picks, can still trade off one of the wings
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:47 pm to LosLobos111
I'll list my favorite for each team
NYK: AD
NOP: Robinson, Knox, Trier, Thomas (waived), #3, both Dallas picks
Pretty standard, no explanation needed
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Boston: AD, Hill
Cleveland: Hayward, #14
NOP: Tatum, Brown, JR Smith (waived), Knight, #5, Memphis pick
Cleveland needs to add someone with Love, and its rumored they are enamored with Hayward, even with his injury. Boston gets their man, sheds a bunch of salary (assuming they stretch Hill), and keep Smart and 2 1st round picks. Pelicans get 2 guys that fit perfectly with Jrue and Zion, and the #5 pick to take a guy like Doumbouya (who I love)
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LAL: AD, Conley
MEM: Ball, Kuzma, Hill, #4, 2020 LA 1st
NOP: Ingram, Hart, #2, 2021 pick swap, 22 1st
We get Morant to pair with Zion. Memphis gets 2 guys that fit their timeline, drop Conley and his salary, plus get a future 1st, and all they have to do is move down 2 spots.. LAl gets 2 "stars" to put beside Lebron, with Conley matching LBJ's timeline.
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Either one of these 3 trades and I would be happy, and I think all teams involved would walk away happy also
NYK: AD
NOP: Robinson, Knox, Trier, Thomas (waived), #3, both Dallas picks
Pretty standard, no explanation needed
____________________________
Boston: AD, Hill
Cleveland: Hayward, #14
NOP: Tatum, Brown, JR Smith (waived), Knight, #5, Memphis pick
Cleveland needs to add someone with Love, and its rumored they are enamored with Hayward, even with his injury. Boston gets their man, sheds a bunch of salary (assuming they stretch Hill), and keep Smart and 2 1st round picks. Pelicans get 2 guys that fit perfectly with Jrue and Zion, and the #5 pick to take a guy like Doumbouya (who I love)
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LAL: AD, Conley
MEM: Ball, Kuzma, Hill, #4, 2020 LA 1st
NOP: Ingram, Hart, #2, 2021 pick swap, 22 1st
We get Morant to pair with Zion. Memphis gets 2 guys that fit their timeline, drop Conley and his salary, plus get a future 1st, and all they have to do is move down 2 spots.. LAl gets 2 "stars" to put beside Lebron, with Conley matching LBJ's timeline.
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Either one of these 3 trades and I would be happy, and I think all teams involved would walk away happy also
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:54 pm to NOFOX
It seems like the Pels get too much, the Heat give up too much, and Memphis would want more than one future asset out of the deal.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:04 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
It seems like the Pels get too much, the Heat give up too much, and Memphis would want more than one future asset out of the deal.
The picks still need to be sorted, but from my understanding Miami does not view Dragic or Olynyk as positive assets. They get Conley going forward and get out of the tax. Maybe a pick swap with the LAC pick instead of losing their pick and then the Heat pick going to Memphis. I just like the idea of figuring out a way to turn Smart + value into Richardson within the context of a Boston trade.
It's difficult to judge the value of Conley considering the size of his contract and age. However, I guess if I am playing Devil's advocate on my proposal, from a Grizz standpoint I'd cut the Pels out and just trade Conley for Richardson, Olynyk, and Dragic + pick.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:11 pm to NOFOX
I could see Memphis going for it if you gave them their pick back and maybe threw one of the lesser picks or a young prospect at them like Frank Jackson. They get the culture setting vets and future stuff.
I guess the Heat side can make sense if Olynyk/Dragic are negative in their minds. But the trade looks so good for the Pels in part because Boston gives you everything. Is there really enough leverage to force that? I guess that depends on Kyrie.
I guess the Heat side can make sense if Olynyk/Dragic are negative in their minds. But the trade looks so good for the Pels in part because Boston gives you everything. Is there really enough leverage to force that? I guess that depends on Kyrie.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:16 pm to LosLobos111
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:18 pm to TigerinATL
Yeah idk if I understand Miami's end game there. Are they getting Conley to try and entice another high level free agent to sign there? Because Conley, Bam, Winslow, Whiteside feels like a pretty low ceiling team.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:23 pm to LesGeaux45
quote:
idk if I understand Miami's end game there
Me neither really, just going off Sporting News’ Sean Devaney reporting last week that the Heat are expected to explore a trade for Conley.
quote:
Heat president Pat Riley has long coveted Mike Conley. NBA sources say Miami is expected to make a run at a trade for Conley in the coming few weeks.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:27 pm to NOFOX
Yeah I guess I haven't really understood what the Heat are doing since LeBron left. They seem to just be content to be mediocre until Riley can somehow get another top level FA to sign there.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:41 am to LesGeaux45
quote:and Hill
Celtics get: AD
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:00 am to BowDownToLSU
You're not getting Boston to take back Hill unless they are sending Hayward in the deal. They dont have a way to match the salary without giving up the entire team
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:00 am to Soggymoss
Hill can be traded at the deadline
Im not worried about the team needing to desperately move him for some reason but i wonder if brooklyn and the pels could do some sort of Crabbe/Solo swap though?
If they sign someone like Brogdon then Moore is gone in a ST
Im not worried about the team needing to desperately move him for some reason but i wonder if brooklyn and the pels could do some sort of Crabbe/Solo swap though?
If they sign someone like Brogdon then Moore is gone in a ST
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 10:08 am
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:17 am to LosLobos111
Its possible Brooklyn would do that, then stretch Hill.. It would save them around 15 million in cap space for the year, and we would actually get a useable player (much like we flipped Aninca for Wesley Johnson last year)
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