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re: Zeppelin lawsuit over Stairway to Heaven
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:55 am to HubbaBubba
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:55 am to HubbaBubba
So.... At most they copied a simple progression to open the song? No lyrics, no melodies, and the "copied" part isn't even the exact same?
Sounds like Spirit needs to GTFO
Sounds like Spirit needs to GTFO
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:12 am to MoonrakerElite
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:14 am to HubbaBubba
These kinds of cases are always tough, and I'm not sure about this one.
The very best example of this kind of case is the case of George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" copying an early 1960s girl band song called "He's So Fine". George lost the case. When you listen to the two songs, you clearly hear that George's song has the very same melody and chorus as the earlier song. Different lyrics. Probably the same chord progression. The court held that George did not willfully plagiarize but he still lost and had to pay money.
With regard to the OP's point: Does the entire Spirit song sound like Stairway to Heaven? If not, then keep in mind that WRT George's "My Sweet Lord" the whole song sounds like "He's So Fine" -- chorus, verse and melody are the same.
The very best example of this kind of case is the case of George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" copying an early 1960s girl band song called "He's So Fine". George lost the case. When you listen to the two songs, you clearly hear that George's song has the very same melody and chorus as the earlier song. Different lyrics. Probably the same chord progression. The court held that George did not willfully plagiarize but he still lost and had to pay money.
With regard to the OP's point: Does the entire Spirit song sound like Stairway to Heaven? If not, then keep in mind that WRT George's "My Sweet Lord" the whole song sounds like "He's So Fine" -- chorus, verse and melody are the same.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 11:31 am
Posted on 5/22/16 at 9:59 am to HubbaBubba
"Stairway to Heaven" is utterly derivative in its musical structure. The opening guitar sequence has an uncanny resemblance to a 1967 hit by Johnny Rivers, "Summer Rain".
Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:12 am to The Boat
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What was Spirit doing for the last 45 years? I feel like there should be some sort of time frame in which to file suit.
This all day long. Stairway is one of the most popular songs in rock. Spirit had to of heard it. Why wait till now, 45 years to bring this to court? Sounds like someone is out of money and is desperate.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:06 pm to Champagne
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George's "My Sweet Lord" the whole song sounds like "He's So Fine"
You can say that again. To underscore that fact, in 1971 country singer Jody Miller recorded a version of "He's So Fine" using the George Harrison song instrumental track, and it was clear even back then it was the same music.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:11 pm to stinkdawg
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Stairway is one of the most popular songs in rock. Spirit had to of heard it. Why wait till now, 45 years to bring this to court? Sounds like someone is out of money and is desperate.
taurus was on tour with zeppelin. that's where LZ lifted the tune from.
the family members of taurus frontman is who filed suit.
and they won: LZ loses first round in stairway case
The idea of doing covers (a band/artist performing a song by a different band/artist) was not new or foreign when Led Zeppelin formed. They had every opportunity, context, protocol, precedent and, yes, moral obligation to credit the original writers of the music they “lifted” (not to mention share out the royalties fairly).
The fact that they didn’t is what’s creating this debate today (a bafflingly large amount of years after the fact).
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:22 pm to monsterballads
It's an old folk Progression,did Taurus credit where they first borrowed it from,or where they first heard it? Musically,it should fall into Public Domain Status.
I mean, it would be like Doc Watson,suing everybody later for " House Of The Rising Sun".
I mean, it would be like Doc Watson,suing everybody later for " House Of The Rising Sun".
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:57 am to Champagne
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The very best example of this kind of case is the case of George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" copying an early 1960s girl band song called "He's So Fine". George lost the case. When you listen to the two songs, you clearly hear that George's song has the very same melody and chorus as the earlier song. Different lyrics.
I may be off but I think I remember hearing James Taylor talk on Stern last year about how he was cutting a demo for the Beatles after he signed with Apple records. one of his song's lines was, something in the way she moves, and a month later the Beatles released George's song. JT was like, ok cool
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:52 am to stinkdawg
I seem to remember reading that the statute of limitations ran out many years ago, like around 1980ish. Zeppelin released a remastered version of the song a couple of years ago, which reopened the door for the lawsuit
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