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re: Who were some of the bands that smoothed the transition from hair metal to grunge?

Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:26 pm to
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The Cult was NEVER to be confused with Hair Bands.

Needs to be stated again.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:59 pm to
Think some of the responses, like Mother Love Bone and Candlebox, miss the mark. If we’re setting the grunge line at 1991, Candlebox broke two years after. Mother Love Bone is like Soundgarden—they were proto-grunge bands whose sound was discovered by the general public after Nirvana exploded.

I do like the Jane’s Addiction nomination, however.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted by STigers
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:05 pm to
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I do like the Jane’s Addiction nomination,

Where do you think Red Hot Chili Peppers fall in place?
Posted by rbiggarjr
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:13 pm to
Pioneers of the grunge sound.80's band that influenced many musicians in the Seattle music scene.

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:59 pm to
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Where do you think Red Hot Chili Peppers fall in place?

Same as Faith No More or Living Color. They seem to have that alternative edge more than the glam rock of the sunset strip guys.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:18 pm to
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Mother Love Bone is like Soundgarden—they were proto-grunge bands whose sound was discovered by the general public after Nirvana exploded.


I was thinking more sonically, than commercially.. they were way more glam and have little in common with bands like Nirvana, other than geography...

Again, for the most part, I don't think there was a transition... more so things were flipped on their head..

Posted by STigers
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:31 pm to
Maybe not Mother Love Bone cuz lsuwannabe was probably right about them not being fully discovered till after Woods death, probably when Pearl Jam came around or maybe not even till “Would”

But Alice In Chains is the transition
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Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:40 pm to
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Where do you think Red Hot Chili Peppers fall in place?


I considered them, but they were so early on the scene. More of an eclectic mix broadly generalized as "alternative" than metal.

Going back to Pantera, with Cowboys from Hell in 1990, like another poster's response.

Or how do we feel about industrial bands like Ministry and NIN?
Posted by STigers
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:13 am to
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Or how do we feel about industrial bands like Ministry and NIN?


I definitely don’t think they were a transition from metal to grunge but it was a great new sound compared to the cheesy glam metal or even heavy metal.
I never listen to all those metal bands, I listen to all the 80’s underground bands and easily transitioned to The Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, etc…
But you never stop loving or listening to your Favorite Original Bands if they were good and why a lot of them are still making music and touring.
Posted by Donkus
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 2:32 pm to
Queensryche managed to carry fans through both waves.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Candlebox.
My favorite Seattle band this side of AiC. This is a really good nominee.
Posted by Hoodie
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:49 pm to
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But Alice In Chains is the transition


Very much so.

My older brother, who grew-up in the 80s and loved hair metal, took a liking to Alice in Chains, who were the only grunge band he can tolerate to this day.

He loved Jerry Cantrell's riffs, which are just too heavy to be denied.
Posted by Hoodie
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:52 pm to
Though they were neither hair metal nor grunge, did Metallica's black album go a good way toward bridging the gap?

It did huge business just as Nirvana's "Nevermind" was released...

Posted by A12 Oxcart
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:59 pm to
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Queensryche managed to carry fans through both waves.

The best rock band to come out of Seattle during the 80s-90s.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:49 pm to
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Though they were neither hair metal nor grunge, did Metallica's black album go a good way toward bridging the gap?


Released a month before Nevermind came out, so probably not. One could argue that Metallica's earlier albums, however, put metal on notice.
Posted by UPGDude
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:51 pm to
Sub Pop - the label.

Malfunkson, Green River, Mudhoney all took the Seattle Underground Punk scene and with Mother Love Bone, Soundgarden, Nirvana, AIC . etc...It became Grunge. I was reading an article that spoke about how the bands hated being called Grunge music but they said what are you going to do.

But Sub Pop brought many of those band the publicity they needed.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:59 pm to
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Released a month before Nevermind came out, so probably not.
But singles went on to be released for like 2 years. The exact release date of the album is mostly irrelevant to the OP's question.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:45 pm to
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But singles went on to be released for like 2 years. The exact release date of the album is mostly irrelevant to the OP's question.


Not sure why you say that when the dropping of "Tells Like Teen Spirit" in 1991 is pretty universally accepted as the moment hair metal died.
Posted by STigers
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:19 am to
If we are still speaking of a heavy metal/grunge transition it was this song and video.
The first “grunge” video to air in MTV. It was def well received by heavy metal fans but later being labeled Grunge.
The music video was nominated for Best Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Video at the 1991 MTV Video Music Awards.
Posted by Hoodie
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:05 am to
Indeed. Alice's Facelift album is heavy as hell. As mentioned earlier, my hair metal brother had the cassette in heavy rotation in his IROC Z-28. That makes it metal.
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